More false science? How long before we can put the global warming myth to bed?

Question

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-02/osu-atd021207.php

This is rediculous, studies don't count unless they work for their agenda. What do you think?

Oil company? This guy is a professor at Ohio state. He recieves funding from the EPA

nvm the last one, didnt read it all the way through. 90% of studies are skewed toward global warming because that is where their research grants come from. When you take money from a group that wants a conclution, your study is going to try for that conclusion. This article shows how even though there is no evidence. He is pulling at straws to make excuses. And what happened to us burning up without ozone, now it makes us colder, since it isnt convienent for thier agenda.

Answer 1

I agree with you that this global warming crap is just that CRAP. They can get 1 million scientists from every country and still, if they were true scientists they would not possibly be able to come to a conclusion about the effects of humans on global climate. The Earth's climate spans for billions of years and even if they took data over the past 200 years and formulated a trend it would be meaningless to predict what would happen. If everyone would just think for themselves a minute rather than accepting what all these so-called studies say, we wouldn't have this problem. Who's to say that the exact same trend 250 million years ago did not happen. I'm not even going to throw in the overly active solar wind of lately which contributes heavily to the addition of heat to the globe. America is becoming more and more dumb simply because we've lost the ability to think on our own and become so easily conviced. I'm glad that at least you have a head on your shoulders and see the light.

Answer 2

Global warming is at the fore front because politicians found how to use a new platform to get re-elected. The world leaders use it because they found ways to make money at it. This is a made up problem just like Global Cooling in the 1970's. Wake up people. I agree we need to be more efficient with our resources, and we should fine and jail companies who are dumping into our rivers maliciously. I want to stop the raiforest destruction, but to say that global warming is a serious man made issue and we need to destroy the American economy and bow down to the rest of the world certainly does not float my boat. Follow the money on this one and you will see that it is all for political gain and grant money for those scientists who profit off of the government if global warming stays at the front of the issues. Look deep into the Keoto (sp?) Treaty, first of all they took jets to a non-central resort location. Not very environmentally concious. THen in the parameters of the treaty they have a clause that makes it so you can buy or sell polution credits. This is all about shifting wealth and breaking down the United States. This is painfully obvious, just look at peoples agenda. The earth's mean temperature has risen .6 degrees C in the past 125 years. Greenland's icecaps have gotten colder in the past 10 years. The Scientists who do not gain anything on their posisition will tell you that the earth has a natural progression and this is what we are seeing. The UN report is made up of POLITICIANS not a good spread of scientists. THere are as many or more scientists who believe that man in NOT the reason and it is over hyped, but their voice is not heard in the LIberal Mainstream Media. This issue is 99% political, and an attempt to make the USA a socialist nation, and eventually communisim. WAKE UP AMERICA, IT IS TIME TO BE AMERICANS. FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE. STOP THE LIES

Answer 3

Oh we have been hearing versions of it for decades.

Its like i posted in another question --
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa576.pdf

Is a comprehensive analysis of much of the data some scientists have put out.

Pro gw theory people will discount experts who are dissenting from 'popular opinion' about global warming. They will tell you well that guy is funded by an oil company or well what about the all these scientists who say its real.
Well the other guys are getting paid by someone too.

Well I say lets look at real 'objective' data. These doom and gloom GW experts are examining data that is picked often to show the most effect. When if it was looked at objectively you would get a very different picture.

Even the UN group, who was saying that in 20 years or so the sea level would rise by 34 inches is now saying well ok maybe our data was off, more like maybe 17 inches.

hmmmm off by 50%. Thats not just a small error is it.

I am strongly for developing alternative and renewable energies.
Other than that I think we are doing a pretty good job with the exeption of many heavily polluting cities in china nad russia and a few others.

Matt - I was referring to patrick michaels who did the analysis I linked.
Also I could link if I could find it a data set on greenhouse gas emissions from volcanos versus humans. Its where people get the often quoted humans produce 150 times as much co2. of course a more recent analysis of the same data set showed it to be about 85-90:1 again the original quoted data which is what people are still quoting, was off by a huge margin.

Answer 4

I figure it will be quite a while, since 1200 scientists from over 110 countries just reviewed over 4000 studies and they concluded that global climate change is real and there is a 90% chance that humans caused it.

It is hard to take you seriously when you point out an article as support for your argument against global climate change, and the article cites two important points in favor of climate change, and then explains that other data is submerged in the much large effect from human caused ozone depletion!

Answer 5

I think the problem is when people like yourself who don't have the capacity to read a scientific article without a preconceived bias try to analyze it as if you know what you are talking about. Read it again: he is saying that the model failed to predict the amount of temperature climb IN ANTARTICA!

I quote: "Bromwich said the disagreement between climate model predictions and the snowfall and temperature records doesn't necessarily mean that the models are wrong.

'It isn't surprising that these models are not doing as well in these remote parts of the world. These are global models and shouldn't be expected to be equally exact for all locations,' he said. "

Answer 6

I have data that conclusively proves the earth is warming. Last week the temperatures were below freezing. This week the ice and snow in my backyard began to thaw. I strongly believe that in a few months global warming will have advanced to the point that I won't even need to wear my coat outside.

Answer 7

Continental Drift

The process by which the continents drift about the world is called plate tectonics. The movement of the Earth's plates, on which the continents ride, is very slow, being only a few centimetres each year. However, over tens or hundreds of millions of years, both the size and position of land areas can change appreciably.

At times in Earth history, there have been super-continents in which all the continental plates were locked together in one area of the globe. The last of these occurred about 250 million years ago, and is named Pangea. Since that time, the continents have gradually moved apart, the most recent separation occurring between Europe and North America, during the last 60 to 70 million years, to form what is now the North Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Pacific Ocean used once to be the vast expanse of water called the Panthalassa Ocean that surrounded Pangea.

Changes in the distribution of landmasses are believed to explain climate changes that occur over tens or hundreds of millions of years. Of course, we have no direct way of knowing what the Earth's climate was like hundreds of millions of years ago, but we can use geological records of sea floor sediments to reconstruct what the climate may have been like. We can also use computer models to estimate how different arrangements of continents may influence the global climate. Currently, it is believed that the arrangement of continental landmasses significantly affects the ocean currents. Since ocean circulation is involved in the transfer of heat around the Earth, so the wandering of landmasses over tens and hundreds of millions of years may influence climate changes over similar time scales.

Such long-term changes to ocean circulation as a result of continental drift may explain the gradual return to an ice-covered world during the last 40 million years. Prior to that period, there was little ice covering the polar regions. As the supercontinent of Pangea continued to break up, so the continent of Antarctica became isolated at the Earth's southern pole. With ocean all around it, a new circumpolar ocean current formed, and heat from lower latitudes was prevented from reaching the continent. The subsequent expansion of the (white) ice sheet on Antarctica about 35 million years ago increased the amount of sunlight the Earth as a whole reflected, and led to a drop in average global surface temperature. Today, although we live in a period of relative warmth since the end of the last Ice Age 14,000 years ago, the Earth as a whole is still gripped by a much longer period of global frigidity. Temperatures today are still perhaps 10°C cooler on average than they were during the age of the dinosaurs.

As continents break apart, new oceans form between them, through a process known as sea-floor spreading. A major zone of sea-floor spreading is today located along the length on the Atlantic Ocean, and is called the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. At these zones large amounts carbon dioxide are released. During time of enhanced tectonic activity and sea floor spreading, elevated levels of carbon dioxide emissions may increase the strength of the Earth's natural greenhouse effect.

Different rates of sea-floor spreading can also affect the shape of the seafloor. When tectonic activity is greater, the sea floor is pushed up, leaving a smaller volume to hold the water of the oceans. Consequently, sea levels can rise by several hundred metres, covering large areas of the continents with warm shallow seas. Indeed, during the age of the dinosaurs about 100 million years ago, the sea level was much higher than it is today and the climate was much warmer.



SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.......

Answer 8

It is happening already, but I've already answered such questions in detail, and now will just do a blog post and refer those interested to it.

Answer 9

The article you site does not conform with the dogma, therfore it is unreliable and will be discarded from the data.