What would happen in a war between the USA and the EU?

Question

Who would win? Why? I am looking for detailed scenarios of what you think would happen......................Thanks...................

Answer 1

For the purposes of my scenario we are going to consider the following:

1. Both combatants are at peak military capacity, mandatory conscription is instituted and all reserves are active
2. No NBC weapons will be used
3. No factors stemming from political unrest will happen (i.e. draft dodging, protest etc.) All citizens are 100% involved and patriotic towards their respective entity.
4. The EU will be treated as 1 nation under some sort of united military. Individual nations will give 100% towards this, no internal disputes between member nations
5. No other countries outside of the current EU membership as of 2007 and the US will be fighting.
6. All military figures and expenditures are as they stand right now, no war economy.
7. War effort is concentrated on this war, all other global conflicts nations involved in right now are not considered.

Casus Belli- The European Union, wanting to establish itself as a super power, begins to block US imports into member nations. All US military bases on European soil are blockaded and military personnel on base are taken hostage to be tried for European alleged crimes. The US declares the acts illegal and militant, thusly it mobilizes for war.

Opening Engagements-
US deploys 8 aircraft carrier battle groups, holding the other 4 in reserve to defend US soil, and begins a systematic blockade of European ports to stifle their economy. European navies are too small and technologically inferior to fight off the blockades and are quickly dispatched and destroyed.

The Naval Air groups launch combat sorties to destroy European fighters and air bases that will pose a threat to the upcoming bombing campaign. Training and budget cutbacks in European air forces in recent years allow the US to obtain total air supremacy within 100 hours. Air supremacy is defined as the condition when the enemy air force is in-capable of effective interference.

SAC air command in the mean time has prepared the B-52's and B-2's for long range bombing attacks with the help of mid-air refueling. Some 102 5-52's and 21 B-2's assault European cities and military targets unhindered. Cruise missile attacks are launched from the sea, and Navy aircraft assist in the bombing missions.

Ground War
As the destruction of Europe continues from the air 3 Marine amphibious assault groups are deployed to the Mediterranean. D-Day is set for 2 weeks after the opening air campaign. The Marines attack the underbelly of France and establish a beachhead and port for more US troops to come ashore. France falls within the month and US forces prepare a two front strategy, one group pushing West to finish off Spain then heading North to England. The other Group heads East. Spain is defeated around 2 months after the initial ground invasion. The Benelux countries quickly fall within a week of each other. A two prong attack is used to envelope Germany. After Germany falls 2 months later. The force turns south to cross the Alps into Italy. Combined with a second seas invasion in the south the two groups meet in Rome a month later, Italy defeated. 6 months after the war began Western Europe is in shambles and the EU announces it's Unconditional Surrender from it's government in exile.

Answer 2

No offense to Rusty but the combined forces of the EU are over 2million strong ( not including reserves. ) They include the 3 of the best 10 militarys on earth, have a combined navy easily comparable to the US. ( US have 214 ships and EU combined would have 200+ ) The Eurofighter typhoon is one of best fighter planes on earth and is better than the f-15, f-18 and the f-22. It also has stealth capabilites when not carrying external bombs. Many EU nations would have the F-35 which has full stealth capability. The Challanger 2 is easiliy capable of defeating multiple M1A1 and M1A2 abrams tanks and the Germans and French tanks are among the best on earth. The EU would have over 3000 tanks to call upon. Less than the US but still plenty. Also Britain, France and Germany are better trained and better tacticions in war. The Swiss also have a highly trained army.

The EU is highly capable of beating the US just as much as the US is of beating the EU. It would all come down to the decisions made and the US have a recent record of making really bad ones.

In my opinion the EU would win.


My reasons.

The EU v US

Active troops
EU - 1537000/ US - 1412000 EU wins

Reserve
EU - 1584000/ US - 858000 EU wins

Budget
EU - $180billion/ US $518billion US wins

Tanks
EU - 8602/ US - 7650

Aircraft Carriers
EU - 5/ US - 12

Destroyers
EU - 29/ US - 30 US wins just

Frigates
EU - 84/ US - 30 EU wins by massive margin

Nuclear Subs
EU - 23/US - 72 US wins by massive margin

EU also has 32 Cruisers and 38 non nuclear subs

Aircraft
EU - 2444/ US - 2604 Slight US victory.

They are very much even. The US also would not dare to have a war with the EU. It would never gain superioty of the seas of the air. There is only 1 way into europe and thats from the west. The med could be a way in but it means more nations may get invoved as its a port for africa and asia. The air would also be almost impossible to gain control so in the end it would be down to ground troops and weapons. Whoever invades will lose and will lose badly. They will be obliterted. The US will lose in an attempted invasion and so will the EU. Both will defend there own land successfully.

Answer 3

Probably the biggest winner would be the Chinese either way it went. If straight out conventional the U.S. would probably win, nothing to do with air power but rather force projection, we have a military built to deploy overseas since we a not bordered by hostile countries-most European countries have some force projection but are designed to fight on the continent with bordering foes. If the Russians helped the EU it would go nuclear and the Chinese would win. India and so on really would have little effect in a nuclear war-delivery system problems and size of arsenal but would destroyed in the retaliation so the Chinese would win. Between the nuclear capabilities of the Russians, U.S., Britain and France we would hammer each other until the Chinese won.

Answer 4

The sceanrio would have to be way in the future and I do mean way.
It would not be city state type of warfare, more on the lines of trade blocs vs trade blocs as eventually the infrastructure would have to be managed by reducing the populations in order to sustain some semblence of economic viablilty.
The resources of earth will of already been divided up to insure profitability to each bloc and have reached even mining of moon and division or shares to each bloc.
The war would have to be possibly religious in nature, as material wants should of been divided up enough to insure a more or less mindless complacent work force at lower levels.Racism already a mixture world wide and showing no differentiation in the main.
Themes in past included sports competiton, to the death, with rewards to the winners.
Each bloc having supported the teams, but in actuality a contest by the richest on earth with no real loss of capital only stature between each other and possibly some form of loss such as wife or hubby thrown in as part of bet.
Kind of a World Olympics done on either a neutral planet or even an artificial Island where all types of weapnry including nukes down to hand to hand last man or woman standing.
The people of the blocs will cheer and no real harm to our environment and therfore our profitability.

Answer 5

The US could defeat the EU out at sea, but neither side can pull off a transatlantic invasion on a scale needed to do real damage.

Unless Britain sides with the US. In that case, it'll be like World War II, where the US-Brit blockade starves Europe until a D-Day invasion could be launched.

Answer 6

In recent competition between America and foreign adversaries, be it the Davis Cup, Ryder Cup or World Cup, or for that matter Viet Nam or Iraq, America has had difficulty emerging victorious. To suggest that America might become so demonic as to engage in a hostile conflict with the EU is the height of pessimism.

Answer 7

The Ryder cup? Impossible to conceive anything more violent. If you want a detailed military analysis of a conventional European war between Russia and NATO, see Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising.

Answer 8

no offense to anyone but the eu would be wipped up on, because they are a trained military that fights on even terms our aircraft are faster than the EUs and are invisible to any radar in the world we have a fleet that dominates the EUs our bombers can wipe entire citys off the map without being seen our tanks are so powerful they can beat the bejesus outve any other tank in the world our infantry are better equipped and we have basically infinate funds and far more industry than the EUs, the EU would fall within a month we would have air supiriority in days and land supieriority in weeks its just not even a fair match , ok lets compare fighters a squadron of f-15s were sent up against one f-22 and the pilots of the f-15s when they landed where basically in shock because they never even say the f-22 on radar, our cruise milles are so accurate we can drop one through the window of a car our carrier fleet dwarfs any on earth and so does our sub fleet,,, its just not fair, i mean it sounds biased but look at it it just isnt


i want to add if we censor the media we can win if not we lose
an invasion could be pulled off without problem send in the airborne to secure the beaches then the hovercrafts loaded with tanks and marines then the lsats loaded with tanks and infantry
its just a matter of shutting the media up for a month

Answer 9

I believe that whomever was in office on
either side would be assasinated.

There is too much kinship between the people
across the oceans to allow such a war.

To ask "what if" assumes alot of stuff
that take the question from speculation to pure
hillarity.

Answer 10

we are strategically based around the world we have the advantage to mobilize faster than any other country we would have air sea land superiority