SO YOU HAVE WATCHED A POLICE OFFICER CHASE A SUSPECT AND SHOOT HIM IN THE BACK - WHEN AND WHERE? A POLICE OFFICER WELL BEING FORMER TAC UNIT - WE WERE TRAINED TO PUT 2 IN THE CHEST AND ONE IN THE HEAD TO ELIMINATE THE THREAT. WHEN A POLICE OFFICER FIRES HIS WEAPON IT IS USUALLY BECAUSE A SUSPECT IS EITHER ATTEMPTING TO KILL HIM OR OTHERS. NEVER DOES AN OFFICER KILL A MAN FOR RUNNING AWAY. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS BUT THOSE ARE THE BAD OR MIS-GUIDED POLICE OFFICERS AND THAT HAPPENS VERY RARELY.
2007-02-15 12:34:00
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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I know you don't know anything about law enforcement so I will try to be decent in this answer. When you are in the heat of confrontation, the gun may waiver or the other person may move. Therefore in order to raise the probability of a hit, the police are instructed to shoot for "center mass" which is the middle and largest part of a human.
Unlike TV where the person stands still, waits for the officer to take their time, etc. real life violence is swift and oblique.
Plus we don't shoot fleeing felons unless it is for murder or a brutally heinous rape or simliar crime since the 1985 supreme court decision Garner vs Tennessee.
I am well aware that most citizens have absolutely no idea what real life law enforcement is like. The best example was a TV station sent their reporters to train on a laser firearms simulator at the police academy of a state. Before the show the news reporters and regular citizens selected by the TV station made their opinions known "cops shoot too much, cops aren't careful," etc.
After they went thru the training simulator the citizens had almost all shot when the officers knew not to, they got scared, mistook a person pulling out a driver's license quickly for a gun, etc.
Kind of interesting that afterwards all of them said they had a new respect for what cops go through. Maybe you could consider this before rendering judgement.
2007-02-15 12:30:24
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answered by Lt. Dan reborn 5
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Let me give you this scenario:
We are chasing this subject after he flead from your house, He had bound and gagged and brutally raped you. We (the police) interrupted him before he could finish the task of killing. He flees the scene and while we are chasing him, based off this incident, we have made a reasonable assesment that this subject getting away from us could and probably would be a danger to the public.
Would you a:
want us to shoot at his legs to try and stop him, even though the size of the target to actually stop him is now reduced to about 3 inches wide and 3 to the 3 1/2 feet long
this would represent the femur, knee, tibia and fibia. we would not shoot towards the upper leg for fear of hitting the femoral artery.
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shoot for center of mass which gives the largest target area with the most potential for stopping the subject and subsequently not allowing him to do again what he already did to you?
We are trained to stop whatever threat we are presented with. If the situation calls for deadly force then that is what it is, deadly force. typically of the police are shooting at someone, the probability is very high they committed: murder, rape or attempted one or the two. There has to be a high probability of loss of life to justify taking a life. It is the biggest decision a officer will ever have to make and it is not like the movies, you don't just go home afterwards and not think and relive the incident for the rest of your life!
Godspeed
2007-02-15 11:33:47
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answered by ? 3
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Seriously? Did you see that on TV, or is that something that came up at a recent "smoke out"? Try walking in their shoes. Police officers are some of the most hated, revered, scrutinized and needed professions we have. Certianly, there are those who take their jobs to the extreme, but until you have had to go out each night not knowing if you will come home to see your family again, don't assume you know.
Do you have any idea the paperwork nightmare it is if you shoot and kill someone? A badge isn't a "right to kill". Every officer I know would use deadly force only if there were no other options.
2007-02-15 11:59:41
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answered by journeyfan75 2
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Having been in the US Army for 5 years and now with my police department for the past 18 years, I have yet to take the Annie Oakley school of trick shooting.
Since learning to shoot, we are taught to shoot to stop the threat. It means you shoot and keep shooting till what you're shooting at stops.
Now if someone is shot in the arm or leg during a police shooting, chances are it wasn't intentional.
It's a fact of life. Get used to it. Bad guys don't have to run they can just give up.
2007-02-18 06:53:35
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answered by Eddie 4
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I don't think they intend to kill....they don't really have time to take perfect aim when "running someone down." Would you rather them let a potentially dangerous person get away to harm someone else, or try what they can to stop them. The only reason a cop would shoot in the first place is if they had reason to believe the person is armed. They don't shoot just to get someone to stop.
2007-02-15 12:02:30
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answered by next PO 2
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Peace officers are trained in weapon marksmanship. Some are specialists, such as sniper long range marksman, which are mostly used in SWAT or special teams. The situations these team or units are put into require at times to wound or disarm through non lethal means, such as in a hostage situation or suicide. Any other police officer, trained in basic marksmanship or shotgun, will most likely be in situations where "immediate action" is required to eliminate the threat of death or severe bodily harm. Basically, the standard officer is more responsive and trained in neutralizing the threat than a specialist, who is a precision marksman and operates under a more controlled environment.
If a police officer wounded a suspect it is not only compromising for the officer in terms of job security, but is also a liability for the organization. This would be more interpreted as an officer who is nervous to take life to protect life, a bad shot. Both of these which are a liability for the Department he/she works for. If an innocent person dies because he/she is either one of these, the dept can be sued civilly and investigated by IA and other state officials. Therefore, most policies prescribe immediate action to neutralize the threat from escalating. All peace officers, badged and not badged are required to undergo extensive training in weapon marksmanship, problem resolution and lethal force. These are just a few of the things their academy/training provide. There is also sustainment training required through out employment. You are in good hands. In combat, such Iraq (I've been there ), it is more logical to wound as most enemy elements travel in groups and a wounded combatant requires the aid of at least one other combatant. You wound one, you take out at least two out of the battle. You kill one, you take only one out of the battle. The only police force I would say operates this way is Brazil (Rio De Jeinero). This because they are corrupt and their children are worse than some our toughest inmates. I hope this answers your question with logic and not bias as your question sounded. If this doesn't make you understand why police work the way they do, you should become one or participate in a explorer program with your local police. If that doesn't help, then take a trip to Brazil or watch the movie City of God from the safety of your home.
2007-02-15 11:36:11
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answered by Anonymous
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Cops are trained to stop the threat, not to shoot to kill. They aim for center mass, the largest part of the body.Head shots are difficult 1) it is a small target 2) the curvature of the skull tends to deflect a round.
2007-02-16 06:35:57
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answered by watchman_1900 3
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when cops are put in a situation where they have to use their weapon (when they or someone else is in physical danger) they need to put an end to the volatile situation. Let me tell you that my husband will be the one going home! If someone is shooting at him, you best believe that he will be aiming with a purpose.
P.S. He is also a Marine, even more of a reason why he will be the one that makes it home in one piece.
2007-02-15 12:55:18
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answered by NolaDawn 5
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You need to use spell check, you know it only takes a second to do and makes your question all that much more credible. I shoot to stop the threat and shoot at center of mass. Sometimes this might be in the chest and may result in death of the person.
Until you have shot at a target with a handgun you will never know just how hard it is to shoot accurately (especially at a distance and at a moving target). We shoot when we or someone else is at immediate risk of bodily harm or death. So if you have a guy coming at you with a knife, it just isn't practical to shoot it out of his hand. Accuracy rates drop dramatically when a person is under stress or if the target is moving. If you miss, that would be your one and only chance and then you would be getting stabbed. Your chances at survival are better with center of mass. We only shoot the number of times it takes to stop the threat (in my example above, the person would drop the knife or stop running toward you).
If someone is shooting at you, shooting them in the leg will not stop them from shooting you, neither will shooting them in the arm (just have to switch hands).
2007-02-15 11:29:19
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answered by joeanonymous 6
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Why should they (or we) have to support some bail jumper for the rest of his life because he didn't want to go to jail where he probably belongs.
If some ******** wants to do the wrong thing, and then try to run from the cops, I say the cop D.S.A.F.---Did Society A Favor.
By the way, most (99.999999%) are not CROOKED, if this is the word you were trying so hard to spell
2007-02-15 11:20:56
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answered by mrjomorisin 4
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