all you evolutionists?

Question

If everything evolved as the theory of evolution states how do you explain the bee?
In 3 days the egg of the queen is hatched.
It is fed for 9 days (3 x 3).
It reaches maturity in 15 days (5 x 3).
The worker grub reaches maturity in 21 days (7 x 3), and is at work 3 days after leaving it's cell.
The drone matures in 24 days (8 x 3).
The bee is composed of 3 sections,-head and two stomachs.
The two eyes are made up of about 3,000 small eyes, each (like the cells of a comb) having 6 sides (2 x 3).
Underneath the body are 6 (2 x 3) wax scales with which the comb is made.
It has 6 (2 x 3) legs. Each leg is composed of three sections.
The foot is formed of 3 triangular sections.
The antennae consists of 9 (3 x 3) sections.
The sting has 9 (3 x 3) barbs on each side.

How can their be an obvious design with out a designer?
Ergo, there is a God.

Answer 1

You really don't expect evolutionists to think logically do you?

Their belief system doesn't require that....it only requires that you reject a Creator/God and choose only that evidence which can be used to confirm your hypothesis., and ignore all the rest.

If the evidence doesn't fit your theory....make a new theory....as you can see from all the foolish arguments here on Yahoo..

Answer 2

When things follow a regular plan we can chulk it up to rules of nature. It's the irregular we have a problem with.

Your information, if accurate, is quite interesting but it doesn't really prove God one way or the other.

We can easily establish how light elements can be made randomly from The Big Bang.

What we can't explain is where all the MASS of the Universe comes from.

If anything, that could explain God, but then we have to ask where God comes from and no one, except maybe God, can explain that.

So we end up with the same infinate paradox.

I think if anything can prove God it's more the exceptions than the rules.

Rules of behavior can exist in a natural environment. It's things like Relativstic thinking and rules that, if anything, establish that there is something more than just blind nature.

To have one set of rules for sub atomic particles and another set of rules for matter introduces a problem.

This is why science has this search for their own Holy Grail called the UNIFIED FIELD THEORY.

Something to explain all the varied little incompatible theories that have factual emperical evidence, but don't intereact with any uniformity, yet word together in tandem to create all there is.

God and the Unified Field might be one in the same.

If anything it's the QUEEN BEE that proves God.

ALL things need a QUEEN BEE

Without the QUEEN BEE all bees would be equal. WHY do they strive for a superior entity.

According to the scientists "nature finds a way" so if you remove the queen bee from the hive the moment the queen is made the hive should eventually find a way to reproduce more bees without the queen.

If not immediate, somewhere down the line.

Nature is supposed to find a way.

BUT, the QUEEN is significant.

The QUEEN is a parable of GOD, JESUS

The QUEEN is a different, holy, worshiped type of bee.

IF anything the need for a QUEEN BEE establishes the need for GOD and RELIGION

Not all the "3" s.

That can be natural

That can follow a math rule of nature

That can be Newtonian.

The QUEEN becomes RELATAVISTIC in which the Newtonian rules no longer behave the same way.

Answer 3

Mathematics is the language of nature. If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge. Therefore there are patterns everywhere in nature.

Explain this, if your god put so much effort into this, (a) why didn't he make drones mature in 3 days rather than 24, why isn't the queen fed for 3 days rather than 9? All this should be possible for an omnipotent being. and (b) why doesn't your god mention all the effort he put into his ridiculous bee patterns? It seems like a lot of unnecessary detail if his only intended purpose was a flawed argument.

Answer 4

1. The creation of the world is the most marvellous achievement imaginable.

2. The merit of an achievment is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.

3. The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.

4. The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existance.

5. Therefore, if we suppose that the univeres is the product of an existent creator, we can conceive a greater being--namely, one who created everything while not existing.

6. An existing God, therefore would not be a being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a God which did not exist.

ERGO, God does not exist.

Of course this argument by Gasking doesnt really prove that God does not exist and is just as funny and skewed as your argument that he does.

Observing symetry and beauty in the world is not more a proof for the existance of god any more than gravity proves it.

Your arguement is as simple minded as, "I threw this apple up into the air to give it to god and god returned it to me. ERGO...there is a god." That matter has symmetry is no proof of imaginary friends.

Answer 5

I agree with your conclusion but your reasoning leaves a lot to beeeee desired.

In a world with gravity, three is just a very powerful way to ensure that the thing that is being tried will actually have a chance of succeeding.

Besides, you are jumping from 'there is obviously a designer' to 'there is obviously only one designer of everything'.


Imagine instead that there are spirits playing games of manifestation and survival the way that some people play sim-city or historical warfare and development games. They design life-forms and they life-forms compete, and only the most efficient survive. That satisfies all the data, and makes God the indirect designer by being the designer of and host of the game.

Answer 6

The complexity of the bee is not proof of a designer. The bee evolved over millions of years. I'm not saying there's no God. God created the universe in such a way that the earth would form and life would arise as he set up the laws of nature. Life evolves according the laws that God created.

Also, there were hundreds of millions of years of life on earth before there were bees. Something that existed before the bees evolved into bees over millions of years.

Answer 7

Why does evolution mean there is no God. There is a marriage between theories that states that there is a master plan with a master planner and God's plan included the process of evolution. I do not think there has it has to be one way or another, evolution is such a complex idea that I whole heartedly believe there was a being responsible.

Answer 8

Like all other creatures, including man, the bee has evolved to its current state. It is still evolving as it comes into contact with killer bees and takes on their aggressive behavior. What makes you think that any of this information contradicts evolution?
The phylum of insects evolved in many different directions according to their needs.

Answer 9

Your numbers are off in a number of places.

Even, presuming, that they were true (again, many of them are not), you can find numerical correlations in anything you so like. Try this on for size:

The reason bees have these wonderful occurances of 3's is because many harvest clover nectar and clover normally has three leaves.


Prove this to be any less valid than your assertion.

Answer 10

Because bees have evolved like that - duh

[I notice that you fail to mention the WINGS... bees only have TWO sets of wings... what happened? did your designer get bored making wings and left a pair off? And of course the bee only has ONE brain, ONE mouth and gut, ONE heart and a whole bunch of other stuff that doesn't fit into your "Theory of Threes" which you have conveniently ignored]

One of the simplest and most straightforward ways of evolving larger more complex organisms from smaller simpler ones is to duplicate sections (often known as segments). In insects this duplication is often done three times or multiples of three - three pairs of limbs, three body segments (thats head, thorax and abdomen, NOT "head and two stomachs"). In spiders and other arachnids it is based on 2 - two body segments, eight legs (4 x 2), eight eyes (or a multiple of 8).

Similar duplication and segmentation is seen in many other creatures such as worms, centipedes... right up to vertebrates including mammals and humans - just look at the backbone of a human or other mammal to observe the repeated structures of the vertebrae.

None of this is proof of God or Intelligent design... it simply demonstrates that the ancestors of bees evolved a body plan that worked and enabled them to survive whilst other competing animals with a different layout did not.

Saying "hey, bees are made up of threes, therefore there is a God" is no more plausible than me saying "I've read a Harry Potter book therefore wizards exist"

Answer 11

Ahh. Insects, in my humble opinion God's greatest creation after that of men.
Primitive Hymenoptera are believed to be parasitoids and weren't social animals (there are still some parasitoids in this group and most bees Are'nt social animals). Acording to evolutionist, it all began when some of the primitive non social bees that hatched in the same place (coming from the same mother) began to act together instead of dispersing. That led to MANY alterations in their life habit and in consequence many morfological changes (their digestive sistem for instance went through a Lot of changes). And that led to the complex, more adapted life they lead now.
Hard to believe?? Well, there ARE Several evidences that prove this theory. You believe in inteligent design. I think that maybe the designer was much more intelligent than we think. Alowing its creation with the power to change and adapt in diferent circunstances. His design was, unfortunetly, too intelligent for poor old Moses to grasp when he was writing the Genesis (I believe he got the part that REALLY matters right though), and it IS still to hard for scientists today to grasp. Theye're trying though, and it pointing to evolution...