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Let's take some examples:
A) Lot, who in Gen.19:8 offers his two virgin daughters to a crowd of angel rapers and later(19:30-38) impregnates them, was a "righteous man." Peter 2,2:8
B) James says Abraham was justified by works (for being willing to kill his son for God); Paul (Rom.4:2-3) says he was justified by faith (for believing that God would order him to do such an evil act). James 2:21
C) Jesus says that his disciples must hate their families (mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, children) and themselves. Luke 14:26
D) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. Mark 7:9-10
E) Jesus will reward men who abandon their wives and families. Mark 10:29-30
F) In the parable of the unforgiving servant, the king threatens to enslave a man and his entire family to pay for a debt. This practice, which was common at the time, seems not to have bothered Jesus very much. Matt 18:25

2007-02-15 04:03:46 · 14 answers · asked by adphllps 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Christians heavily cherry pick morality from the bible, so obviously their morality is not biblically derived. Their morals come from elsewhere.

Good thing too, if christians actually followed the stuff in the bible we'd still be in the dark ages. The bible calls for killing people who work on sunday, slavery is ok, racism is ok, killing non-believers (if its your own family you have to kill them yourself, if you don't have the guts you should be killed), and so on.

EDIT:
"It reflects God's values and to understand them, you must be Spirit filled."

I can't even believe this. You must be "spirit filled" to murder disobedient children? What kind of sick, messed up ****job are you? That you would even go so far as to say you must be "spirit filled" to kill anybody sickens me to the core, but children?

No wonder Atheists have the lowest rates of crime, violence, rape, stds, abortion, etc.... Our morality is far ahead.

2007-02-15 04:12:55 · answer #1 · answered by Mike K 5 · 0 2

You're off base. I'll give you Lot though, that was messed up. I've never figured that one out.

B - Abraham trusted that God wouldn't go through with it. Read the whole story. God promised that countless descendants would come through Isaac specifically. Abraham knew that God kept His promises, and on the way up the mt. when Isaac asked where the lamb was, abraham replied "God will provide it Himself. "
C - This is a parable of sorts. Meaning that Jesus/God must be your first priority. To love God is to obey Him above all else. To trust that He knows what is best, moreso than our human mind can ever know.
D - It's an example of how they've neglected the old law and changed it to suit their needs. It doesn't say disobedient children either. The old law was very harsh to keep people from sin. There was no way to cleanse them and let them be close to God before Jesus. The penalties were huge to save people from doing them. After Jesus, we live under Grace, not the Law, so you don't have to worry about that today.
E - Same as C
F - The key word is PARABLE. It's not a specific true story. It's an example of how we are to not behave. He used an example out of life that they would understand. Research Jesus' views on slavery

Your understanding is based on bits and pieces. You do need the guidance of the Spirit to understand the heart of what the Bible teaches us. No one will ever fully understand it all until we are made perfect in the Kingdom of Heaven. We can't answer all your questions, we can't rationalize with you. To me, it makes sense, to others who have been born again, it makes sense. You have to see with different eyes. You have to realize that an all-knowing God can see the end from the beginning and knows the best path to take. It is only arrogance that causes us to think our little 10% brains can grasp it.

2007-02-15 04:30:18 · answer #2 · answered by BaseballGrrl 6 · 0 0

In Genisis 19:18 it is not angels that surround the door. The angels are inside with Lot. It is a group of evil men. God does not allow lot to give his daughters over...but blessed him because he was willing to do so to protect the angels that God sent to him. The angels strike the men blind and no one touches the daughters. God's protection was over Lot and his daughters.
In Romans4:2-3 God was merely testing Abrahams faithfulness. God sacrificed Jesus for our sins. He was testing Abraham to see if he loved God enough to do the same for him. Abraham showed that he loved God and would do anything God asked of him. God again, stopped Abraham from killing his son. He was blessed because Abraham loved him enough to sacrifice his son just as God sacrificed Jesus for the world. But, God loved Abraham and spared his sons life.
In Luke 14:26 God does not literally mean that the disciples are to hate their families, this means that when a believer loves Jesus they are often criticized by their families and others. He is saying that those that love Him and serve him may be an outcast amongst family and friends, but if they choose to follow Him inspite of this, they will be blessed with eternal life.
In Mark 7:9-10 Jesus is saying that we are to "honor" our parents meaning that we are to respect and love our parents and for those that do so, they will receive a special blessing.
Mark 10:29-30 is again saying that for those that love Jesus and follow him inspite of being shunned by their families will be rewarded.
Matthew 18:25 This parable says (in a nutshell) that the servant was forgiven but then went out and did not show forgiveness of others. God is saying that we are to forgive others as we want to be forgiven, for it is with the same measure that we forgive that we are forgiven.

2007-02-15 05:48:26 · answer #3 · answered by ceegt 6 · 0 0

Yes, it does. Your flippancy is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge of biblical hermeneutics. You have not interpreted the scriptures you are quoting in light of the overall biblical messages.

Try to not pick a few verses of the bible (or any book) and then try to build an entire theology around them. This is the mistake of the unlearned and the foolhardy.

Had you asked your question with a sincere desire to learn something you would have received a cogent responses.

2007-02-15 04:55:08 · answer #4 · answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6 · 0 0

The previous Testiment is a Jewish e book this is in uncomplicated words blanketed interior the Bible by using three hundred prophesies that are fulfilled by potential of Christ. the hot Testiment reflects the hot covenent with God depending of reality and beauty. keep interpreting

2016-10-17 07:18:21 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

"The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God" First Corinthians 1:18

2007-02-15 04:11:38 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Souds like you are REALLY struggling (wrestling) with understanding Scripture.

" They that are unlearned and unstable wrestle, as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

"In the last days, there shall come mockers, walking after their own lusts...".

2007-02-15 04:08:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Of course. Sounds like all the Christians I know. Say one thing, do another.

2007-02-15 04:06:17 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

I believe in all of those and yes being a christian reflects all my values in my life.

2007-02-15 04:08:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Hmm, loving slavery, hating Jews, contradicting themselves, incest... Alabama anyone?

2007-02-15 04:12:39 · answer #10 · answered by XX 6 · 0 1

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