Y is Hartindo AF products not as popular as other portable(CO2,DP)& fire suppresion systems(FM200,FE13) types?

Question

Is it due to pricing?Product confidence?Product reliability?Or some other reason?I can’t seem to find a site(other than the hartindo product site) that puts it side by side with other Halon alternatives.

Answer 1

Hi rossman.

I am assuming you are asking about AF11e?

AF11e boasts a 1:1 drop in replacement ratio for Halon 1301 appliactions. That's pretty impressive. (It's also the third agent to make that claim, but it may actually be the first one in which it's true!) Kidde worked out a deal with Great Lakes Chemical to develop the ADS discharge system, a system which uses nitrogen stored in a seperate cylinder to be the propellent for FM-200. When used in this fashion, you could potentially reutilize existing distribution piping. But the tanks and nozzles had to be changed.

Then along came Fike with FE-25 from DuPont. Same deal, you could reuse the piping, but needed new tanks and nozzles.

The makers of AF11e claim to be able to reuse the same tanks, distribution hardware, and nozzles as the exsiting halon system. While the sciece is there, you'd still need the backing of UL in the United States and other listing orginizations worldwide before you could just "reuse" existing hardware.

Also, AF11e has not presently been accepted by the U.S.'s EPA's SNAP List for acceptable Halon alternatives.

Once AF11e makes the snap list, then we might see some action.

The latest concern now is what are replacement agent's GWP (Global Warming Potential.) I have not seen enough data on AF11e to answer that question. Right now, the most promising agent in that regard, aside from the inert gas systems, is 3M's Novec-1230 fire suppression fluid.

The AF11e agent shows promise, that's for sure. But I need to see more information before I can form an opinion. I guess we'll just have to wait and see which manufacturer's (which make the distribution equipment) jump on the bandwagon.

Answer 2

This too funny for words, but a couple of years ago it could have been me. I went to computer class to learn before I purchased and the first thing I was taught was the plug into the wall , then second is it turned on and third was check for power!!!! C-prompt was a sign that I lost the program and upon occasion I lost it!!! It makes you feel so smart. Try buying the computer professor 80.00 a whack thats what he could have used!!!!