Could God fulfil his plan to save humanity without the help of satan?

Question

Luk 22:3 Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was of the number of the twelve.
Luk 22:4 He went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers how he might betray him to them.

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How can satan the symbol of evil help God to fulfill his plan?
This proves that Christian's savior is neither God nor Jesus... he was satan.

But why did satan help God?

Answer 1

In ancient Jewish tradition Satan is simply an angel doing the work that God assigned to Satan to do.

The word Satan means challenger. With the idea of Satan challenging us, or tempting if you will. This description sees Satan as the angel who is the embodiment of man's challenges. This idea of Satan works closely with God as an integral part of Gods plan for us. His job is to make choosing good over evil enough of a challenge so that it becomes clear to us that there can be only one meaningful or logical choice.

Contrast this to Christianity, which sees Satan as God's opponent. In Jewish thought, the idea that there exists anything capable of setting itself up as God's opponent would be considered polytheistic or setting up the devil to be an equally powerful polarity to god or a demigod.

Oddly, proof for The Christian satan/devil mythology is supposedly found in the ancient Jewish texts that were borrowed to create the bible. One can’t help but wonder how Christians came up with such a fantastically different interpretation of Gods assistant Satan in their theology.

Other hints about Satan’s role in human relations can be seen if you look at the name Lucifer. It’s meaning in the original tongue translates as Light bearer or light bringer. Essentially the bringer of enlightenment. The temptations of the Satan idea bring all of us eventually into Gods light. Hardly the Evil entity of Christian mythology.

Love and blessings
don

Answer 2

God was able to see the whole ball of wax from the beginning and He knew perfectly how it would pan out, Gods plan of salvation had to take into account Man`s free will and choice, satan was so proud that he believed he was calling the shots here but God had an answer for every one of his evil schemes.
Judas was not forced by satan to do what he did but he was tempted to do it,he still had a free will and could have chose not to betray Jesus,the Sanhedrin and the chief Priests would have got to Christ eventually as this was their determined plan.

Answer 3

What makes you think that God was seeking Satan's help? Nothing happens that God does not already know. God did not enlist Satan's help. Rather, God knew what Satan would do and all these things fall into the sovereign and eternal purpose of God, something which you should know but does not want to.

Answer 4

If Satan knew that Judas betraying Jesus would lead to the death and ultimately the resurrection of Jesus for the benefit of mankind. Satan would not have even considered it. Thats why its called the hidden wisdom of God.

1Corinthians 2:7,8

"But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory".

God and Satan are definitely not in the same league neither are they in any partnership. God does not need Satan to fulfil his will on earth.

Answer 5

Satan the symbol of evil only helps the church fulfill its plan of world domination. Satan the angel is Gods best friend and the prosecuting attorney of Heaven. By the way...he created the tree.

Answer 6

God do not need anyone or anything to fulfill his purpose, But God choose to use them, to show his redemptive plan. God has all power over satan. God use Pharoad before Moses could take Jews into their promise land, , Now you want to slander us Christians saying our God is satan, How low can your thinking go, God is my savior through what Jesus Christ did for me, Before I became a Christian, satan ruled my life, But since I am a Christian now, satan does not rule me, God does. Now your God may be satan but not mine.

Answer 7

When speaking of God’s will, many people see three different aspects of it being revealed in the Bible. The first aspect of it is known as God’s decretive, sovereign, or hidden will. This is God’s "ultimate" will.

These expressions of God’s will focuses on the fact that God sovereignty ordains everything that comes to pass.

This aspect of God’s will acknowledges the fact that even when God passively permits things to happen, He must choose to permit them, because He always has the power and right to intervene.

Ephesians 1:11; where it tells us that God is the one “who works all things according to the counsel of His will”.

God does not need anyone or anything to do his will but allow, “passively” events to occur to complete his purpose.

Answer 8

Your syllogism is like this:

God used Satan to fulfill His plan
therefore, God needs Satan to fulfill His plan
If God uses Satan to fulfill His plan
then Satan is the Christian Savior.

I don't think that your conclusion follows your thesis. What you are assuming is that God needed Satan to fulfill His plan, and that there were no other possible scenarios.

This leads me to believe that you do not understand the creation, fall, redemption theme in Scripture.

God created the angels and allowed them free choice to serve Him. Lucifer rejected that and decided he wanted to become God. God threw him out of heaven and his name became Satan. His role due to his own choice, not God's, is to try to destroy God's work and deceive God's children.
God then created man/woman in His image. He wanted them to love Him. In order for that to happen, He needed to give them free will. They chose to elevate SELF over God and followed Satan's example. (Genesis 3)(James 1:14-16).
God in His Goodness, had already devised a plan to come to Earth and pay for man's sin. That happened in the life and work of Jesus. When Jesus died, and was resurrected, He destroyed Satan's hold over men who CHOOSE to follow Christ.
Satan, in the meantime, was trying to thwart that. But since GOD is sovereign and perfect and Satan's creator, He can overcome anything Satan throws at Him...and He does. It is not that God choosed to USE Satan as a tool, but rather He deflects Satan's choices and uses them for GOOD instead of the evil Satan intends. Since God is not locked in time/space, His perspective is NOT ours. A good thing for you to do is to study the bible comprehensively and not piecemeal...you'll get a better grip.

Answer 9

It is because of Satan we need to be saved. And his only roll is that we can either follow him or God. Your precept is not only inane but is also unfounded. It wasn't even a good try!

Answer 10

Gods plan for this was written long ago. Jesus was to be crucified. Please see Psalm 22:16-31. Satan could not change, what was mean't to be, he could only fullfill it. Christ says as much himself in Luke 22:36&37.
NICE TRY.