If God is so powerful, why did he deem it necessary to make his son suffer to open the gates of heaven?

Question

If he is truly a god, then it would seem logical that he could come up with a better way to alleviate the 'sins' of the people he created than to throw his son in the mix and have him brutally killed (isn't that a sin in itself?).

I can't make sense of this and quoting the bible will not help. I'd rather get your thoughts about it rather than a quote from a person 2000 years ago.

Still no viable reason from religious folk about the logic behind having your son killed to wipe out sin. I know what the bible says about it, but that doesn't make any sense either. How does shedding blood equal wiping away sin? It seems to me that it would only add to it. Answers that reflect a person's blind faith do not shed light on this.

Answer 1

God is subject to the laws of good story-telling. Every good yarn needs conflict, and the "dying and rising god" and "hero's journey through the dark night of the soul" themes are all-time favorites - essential to writing history's ultimate best seller!

Answer 2

The very first actions recorded in the bible of anyone other than Adam and Eve is the offerings offered up by Cain and Able. This is an example of a SIN offering and comes way before the Levitical law or anything Jewish. The only thing to happen prior was the origin of sin itself.

You can conclude that everyone who has ever lived will be required to make a sin offering in order to make it from this disposable reality into a perfect and eternal one.

In the story of Cain and Able, one offering was refused and one was accepted. The offering Cain made was by his own hands and is not accepted. The offering that Able made is accepted because the offering was provided by the LORD himself.

This is prophetic of Jesus Christ, whom the Lord provided for the sins of the entire world.

Jesus Christ was foretold from the very beginning, in the bible and even the zodiac, because he was destined to come down and become our sin offering.

If you pray the sinner’s prayer in the name of Jesus, he becomes your sin offering.

If you make the correct sin offering, it will be accepted and you will pass into the next life. If you make the wrong sin offering or none at all, it will not be accepted just as Cain’s offering was not accepted.

It is not logical for a person to claim belief in God only if that God conforms to ones predetermined beliefs. By definition, a real God would not conform but rather force you to conform to a reality that he created by his values.

Answer 3

He lost his keys to the gate, so Jesus had to use the back door? That sounds as logical as God who is all powerful needing to send down his only son (even though we are supposedly his children as well, which obviously does not make sense) to be killed to remove sin. God needs to get a better way of getting rid of sin, because he is either flooding the world or having his son crucified. Maybe he should wave his magic wand and make it all go away. He created everything and is all powerful so it should be easy for him.

Answer 4

It took something perfect, something sinless, to take away sin. Jesus is that something. Kind of like, it takes a positive (or plus) 10 to take away,redeem, make right a negative 10. -10 + +10 goes back to 0 correcting the negative - . God can't die. So, Jesus (being God too) came to Earth as a man. Man= human can die. In this way, someone perfect, sinless, and God, sacrificed His life to atone for and r take away our sin. The mix you speak of, the brutality, shows what Jesus was willing to go through to redeem us. It shows how much He loves and cares about us. Jesus did nothing wrong, nothing to merit such a punishment., such a death.. He suffered so we wouldn't have to suffer the punishment we sinful people would have had to suffer because God demands that sin be punished. We know what's right and what's wrong but we still do the wrong things. People still murder, steal, lie, curse, etc. etc. We know we're not to do such things, but we do. Jesus takes the punishment we would deserve away and makes us acceptable in the sight of God. Jesus holiness is imparted to us and we are now forgiven. We should thank Him for doing such and live like we're thankful.

Answer 5

Firstly, we can never presume to know God. He is by nature beyond the scope of a single human consciousness. Otherwise, He would not be God.

Secondly, He did not create sin, He created Law. Man originally broke and constantly breaks these Laws of his own free will.

Thirdly, the Christ's death was a necessary fulfillment of these Laws.

God's 'logic' operates on a historical level throughout the Old and into the New Testament. Jesus is enacting a situation prefigured by Isaac, the paschal lamb and the scapegoat, in an infinitely more complex and important role. As the pure Son of God, He is capable of existing in perfection with the Law; He freely takes upon Himself the sins of the world and dies in order to complete God's message to the World. Christ then rose from the dead.

Answer 6

Sorry pricey, God is nether male or lady they're Spirits. The shedding of blood replaced into the severe fee to pay for the sins of the global. that's what God stated the fee might want to be and he's the regulation giver and the choose.

Answer 7

You know that all UN - godly people go to Hell, right. Well, they all do. Back in those times, God was so angry that He wiped out all the Earth except Noah in a great flood. God didn't make Jesus be crucified. Jesus did have a choice. When He was on the cross, He could have said at any moment, "Father God, I want to go back to Heaven." But He didn't for the sake of the sins of the people. He was whipped, beaten, had a crown of long, sharp thorns jammed into His head, spit on, had His hands and feet nailed into splintery wood, stripped of His clothes, and much more and worse. He did that for you. Do you think that being a world so sinful as we are is a way to repay this penalty of such a humble man as Jesus? God bless you and may Jesus redeem your heart. I hope to see you in Heaven one day.

Answer 8

You want to talk about an event in the Bible, but we can't quote the Bible in doing so? Grrr. Typical though. The fact is, Jesus did not "have" to die. He chose to die for YOU. It's called love, and you should look into it. He was the only one who could do it, and it was to show the unfathomable love of the Father to his know-all, smarty pants creation.

Punter: Why do you believe Muhammad over Jesus? Muhammad did not die for your sins and not only that, he persuades his followers to reject the gift of eternal life offered by the One Who did.


edit: now you've changed the question from "how could He kill His own Son," to, "how does blood cleanse sin." Your opening statement shows that you presume that if God existed, He'd do things in a way that would make sense to you. Why not do something that really makes sense and recognize that finite creatures cannot comprehend an infinite, omniscient being, and realize that if He is there that He's likely to be a little bit beyond our intellectual grasp. Then, knowing that so many people of even greater intelligence than yours believe in Him, open yourself up to the possibility that you could be missing something.

Answer 9

The One True God gives such a great sacrifice and a Holy Book to particularly educate the rational beings. They evidently cannot understand anything, if they deny even their divinely endowed rational sense.

The cow need not such education, and she commits no sins.
Is the cow greater than man? If three billion or thirty billion years later, the cow evolves through labor to become man and sins like us today, then what is the use of evolution?

Answer 10

It's not all that complicated.

Sin was at the root of the problem, but it was the unexpected consequences of sin that made a holy and sinless redeemer necessary.

When Adam sinned, he ended up permanently enslaved to Satan. It was just one of those really bad bargains people make with the devil, where they always get screwed, in the end.

Worst yet, the offspring of slaves become the property of their master as well, so all of mankind was enslaved to Satan by Adam's fall from God's grace.

And since Adam's original sin was man's only spiritual heritage, there was nothing any ordinary man could do to remedy the situation.

Even if God had forgiven Adam, Satan had gained a legal right to rule over mankind, when Adam foolishly traded away dominion over all the earth, in exchange for the knowledge of good and evil.

So the problem of slavery to Satan remained, forgiveness or not.

That's why it was necessary for God to send his son, Jesus, to save mankind. It was the only possible way mankind could become free.

When the sinless and holy Jesus took on flesh and became man, Satan had no hold or claim on him, and so long as Jesus remained sinless, Satan had no right to do anything to him, at all.

But Satan hated Jesus, and in the end, Satan couldn't keep himself from enlisting the Jews and the Romans to crucify him.

Jesus permitted himself to be put to death, knowing full well that his death would become Satan's undoing, as under God's most basic law, no one, not even the devil, has the right to take the life of a sinless and innocent man, let alone the only son of God.

Once Jesus died, Satan was judged for his crime, and found guilty. All that Satan had earlier gained from Adam's sin was taken from him and awarded to the resurrected Christ.

With Jesus as the new head of all mankind, all men were given their freedom, and God was more than willing to forgive sins.

The church continues the work of salvation in the world today, offering the grace of salvation to anyone who is willing to reject Satan and all his works, and swear faithful allegiance to Jesus Christ, our redeemer.

Those who fail to opt for Christ in this life, remain by default, slaves to Satan. And if they die in that condition, it becomes permanent and eternal. Welcome to hell!

That's why Christians are called to evangelize, and why Christ's great commission, which is to teach and to baptize, is still in full force today.

Salvation through Christ and his church is the only way for anyone to become free of Satan, sin, and death, and get to heaven.

And that's about it.

I explained it for you without using any scripture at all.

The theology of redemption is rather peculiar, but it works.

What do you think?