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in my previous questions i posted these 2 bible verses:

genesis 15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring [a] and hers;
he will crush [b] your head,
and you will strike his heel."

in tha garden of gethsemenee jesus crushed tha head of a serpent/snake

“Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken” (Isaiah 7:14-16).

tha virgin part has nothing to do with tha messiah, yer right. but i does refer to tha messiah's mother.

2007-02-14 09:51:53 · 11 answers · asked by andrew 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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yeah? well what about all these verses? or should they just be ignored?

. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE OF G-D.

Jeremiah 31:33 - "And no longer shall one teach his neighbour or his brother, saying: "Know the Lord," for they shall know me from their smallest to their greatest, says the Lord."

Zechariah 8:23 - "And the Lord shall become King over all the earth; on that day shall the Lord be one, and His name one."

2. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING ALL THE JEWS BACK TO ISRAEL.

Isaiah 43:5 - "From the east I will bring your seed, and from the west I will gather you. I will say to the north, "Give," and to the south, "Do not refrain"; bring My sons from afar and My daughters from the end of the earth."

Isaiah 11:12 - "And he shall raise a banner to the nations, and he shall gather the lost of Israel, and the scattered ones of Judah he shall gather from the four corners of the earth."

Isaiah 27:12 - "And it shall come to pass on that day, that the Lord shall gather from the flood of the river to the stream of Egypt, and you shall be gather one by one, O children of Israel. And it shall come to pass on that day, that a great shofar will be sounded, and those lost in the land of Assyria and those exiled in the land of Egypt shall come and they shall prostrate themselves before the Lord on the holy mount in Jerusalem."

3. THE MESSIAH WILL BRING WORLD PEACE AND ALL WARFARE WILL CEASE.

Isaiah 11:6 - "And wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling shall lie together, and a small child shall lead them."

Micah 4:3 - "And he shall judge between many peoples and reprove mighty nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation; neither shall they learn war anymore."

4. ALL WEAPONS WILL BE DESTROYED.

Ezekiel 39:9 - "The inhabitants of the cities of Israel will go forth and make fires and heat up with the weapons, the bucklers, and the encompassing shields, the bows and the arrows and the handstaves and the spears, and they shall burn them as fires for seven years."

5. THE TEMPLE WILL BE REBUILT.

Ezekiel 37:36 - "And I will form a covenant of peace for them, an everlasting covenant shall be with them; and I will establish them and I will multiply them, and I will place My Sanctuary in their midst forever."

Micah 4:1 - "And it shall be at the end of days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be firmly established at the top of the mountains, and it shall be raised upon the hills, and peoples shall stream upon it."

6. HE WILL CURE ALL THE SICKLY AND DISABLED.

Isaiah 35:5 - "Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. Then the lame shall skip like a hart, and the tongue of the mute shall sing, for water has broken out in the desert and streams in the plain."

7. HE WILL BE PRECEEDED BY THE PROPHET ELIJAH.

Malachi 3:23 (4:4 in KJV) - "Lo, I will send you the prophet Elijah before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord."

8. THE NATIONS WILL HELP THE JEWS.

Isaiah 60:5 - "Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall be startled and become enlarged, for the abundance of the west will be turned over to you, the wealth of the nations will come to you."

Isaiah 60:10 - "And foreigners will build your walls, and their kings shall serve you, for in My wrath I struck you and in My grace have I had mercy on you."

9. ETERNAL JOY AND GLADNESS WILL CHARACTERIZE THE JEWISH NATION.

Isaiah 51:11 - "And the redeemed of the Lord shall return, and the will come to Zion with song and with everlasting joy on their heads; gladness and joy shall overtake them; sorrow and sighing shall flee.

10. TREES IN ISRAEL WILL YIELD FRUIT EVERY MONTH.

Ezekiel 47:12 - "But the stream, on its bank from either side, will grow every tree for food; its lead will not wither, neither will its fruit end; month after month its fruits will ripen, for its waters will emanate from the Sanctuary, and its fruit shall be for food and its leaves for a cure."

11. DEATH WILL CEASE.

Isaiah 25:8 - "He has concealed death forever, and the Lord God shall wipe the tears off every face, and the shame of his people he shall remove from upon the earth, for the Lord has spoken."

12. THE DEAD WILL BE RESURRECTED.

Isaiah 26:19 - "May Your dead live, 'My corpses shall rise; awaken and sing, you who dwell in the dust, for a dew of lights is your dew, and to the earth You shall cast the slackers."

Ezekiel 37:13 - "Therefore, prophecy and say unto them, So says the Lord God: Lo! I open your graves and cause you to come up from your graves as My people, and bring you home to the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and lead you up out of your graves as My people. And I will put My spirit into you, and you shall live, and I will set you on your land, and you shall know that I, the Lord, have spoken it and have performed it, says the Lord."

13. THE MESSIAH WILL NOT FAIL. HE WILL DO IT THE FIRST TIME AROUND.

Isaiah 42:4 - "Neither shall he weaken, nor shall he be broken."

sorry for the ridiculous length, but the fact that i can list these all as not applying to jesus just goes to show how terribly he failed the messianic test.

2007-02-14 10:10:52 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I'm with you... reading the Jewish interpretation/translation of the scriptures is what finally made me realize that Jesus could not have been the Messiah. The Jews just have a better argument. I think the problem is that most Christians really belive that the Jewish beliefs are exactly the same as they were taught about the OT. They don't realize Christians changed it a bit, interpreted and translated it differently. There is nothing in the Tenakh about a virgin birth, about a second coming, or about eternal damnation & torment. They believe there is, because they've only been taught the Christianized version. They think the Jews go by the same version... obviously not.

2016-03-29 06:40:32 · answer #2 · answered by Lynne 4 · 0 0

Jesus and his followers had the benefit of reading the old testament when devising the mythos of Jesus, that is the only reason there are any connections between Jesus and the old testament and even then they are shaky at best.

By your example anyone who has killed a snake in a garden fits that "prophecy" It doesn't even sound like a prophecy. The He in that statement very clearly refers to mankind.

I wont even touch the second paragraph it was very clearly decimated in your other question. you are lucky i am not reporting you for asking the same question twice.

to feninan:The old Testament is the holy book fo the Jews, Jesus and his followers very definitely had access to those books even if they were not called the old testament or cannonized.

2007-02-14 09:54:42 · answer #3 · answered by abcdefghijk 4 · 2 0

the virgin part was not translated properly,it should read young woman. in response to randy...........jesus and his followers did not have the benefit of the old testament as at that time there was no canon decided, although there was many texts written those that pertained to the jews etc had not been clarified.

2007-02-14 09:59:53 · answer #4 · answered by fenian1916 5 · 1 0

It's pretty basic. G-d has blinded the spiritual eyes of the Jewish people to give the Gentiles a shot at salvation.

2007-02-14 10:00:44 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Kingdom of Heaven is a monarchy, the father wants to be boss

2007-02-14 10:02:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Ok, but what exactly is your question? Verses from the bible only prove that someone wrote verses and then claimed he was acting as a transcriber for god. You DO get this, right? Now what was your question again?

2007-02-14 09:56:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

are you seriously telling me that because one of the Gospels mentions that Jesus stepped on a snakes head that this makes him the messiah?

I need to find a snake....

as for Mary, well I suggest you read this.
http://www.jewsforjudaism.com/web/faq/faq024.html

2007-02-14 18:47:47 · answer #8 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 0 0

Because they deny Jesus(PBUH*) is the Messiah. And they are entitled to their beliefs however different they may be.

2007-02-14 10:22:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

cos jews are really devil worshippers and they are evil. they are here to destroy the world i think.and they are doing so. they are the debt vultures that are buying third world country debts for a cut down price of three million dollors then suing the countrys for 100 million dollors.

2007-02-14 09:57:56 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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