Anyone else getting sick of some stuckup childfree?

Question

I am so mad today!!! I am sick of selfish childfree people calling mothers breeders and moos and calling our children sprogs and brats. They seem to think that they are so superior to parents, and I just saw something on tv about now they want to ban children from some restaurants on certain days! Not like fancy ones either, like TGI Fridays and stuff! For cryin out loud, children are a part of this world and you have to deal with it. They will never know they joy children bring all because they are too scared to give birth or too selfish to share their lives with anyone. I just don't like the way they judge, and I'm starting to develop my own opinions about them too. I secretly think they are kinda jealous. But I would never just rag on thir lifestyle, not unless I was provoked, which I was today!

Answer 1

This is the second time you've posted this exact same rant. If you hate being judged so much, stop judging people without kids. I'm hardly jealous, if I wanted kids I could have them it's not rocket science. The most basic organism on the planet can reproduce. I'm not scared of giving birth. If childbirth is the most pain you've ever experienced in your life, consider yourself lucky. Women have babies everyday, so what. Just because I don't have kids doesn't mean I don't share my life with anyone. Can you say the same? Do you see anyone outside of your family? Do you still see friends you knew in highschool on a regular basis? I still see mine, well the ones without kids that is, the others can never make it because they are tied down by their kids. It's a CHOICE, you want kids good for you, i don't want any it doesn't make me a bad person.

What about responsible parents who are trying to enjoy some couple time and pay a sitter so that they may enjoy an evening without their kids in a restaurant only to find that some inconsiderate person has brought their loud obnoxious undisciplined child to the restaurant they chose? I imagine that would be very disappointing and irritating for them.

The simple fact is that some kids are annoying. And you know that's true. If you're so into family values why are you taking your kids to a restaurant to eat.

Answer 2

I like what you said about not ragging on their lifestyle unless you were provoked. What you fail to realise is that people without kids are provoked by people with them all the time, almost constantly.

You may not be one of them, but there are many parents who believe that parents should be catered to and given special treatment because they have kids. It's true. A perfect example, for anyone who follows the news, is that 3 year old girl that wouldn't behave on the airplane, delaying the filght, so they kicked her and her parents off the plane. The parents were outraged, but they had no right to be. They already held up the flight 15 minutes, and they expected the airline and the 112 other passengers to drop everything and give them time to get control of their kid.

You said: "They will never know they joy children bring all because they are too scared to give birth or too selfish to share their lives with anyone." Well, really, having a child is the most selfish thing you can possibly do. If you wanted to be really altruistic, why not adopt. These are children that are already born, and need a home. It's because people want their own children, who have their genes. They want kids that look like them. That's selfish, and there's nothing wrong with being selfish, as long as you have the intellectual honesty to admit it.

So, try to look at it from the other side. People who don't have kids don't have kids because they don't want to have to put up with all the things that go with them. Can you blame them for wanting to enjoy a meal out without a baby crying in their ear, or a toddler running around the table?

Being a parent is a lifestyle choice, just like not being one is. One shouldn't be favored over the other. Right now, parents are favored in many ways and many times it's hard for members of the favored group to see the inequity.

Answer 3

I'm childfree and have no problem with responsible parents who raise their kids to have respect for others and themselves.

I have a problem with parents who are scared to discipline their kids when they get out of line, who allow their kids to be nuisances, especially in public places like movie theaters and restaurants, who are too permissive and give in every time their kids want something, who will run over other parents and authority figures like teachers and the police to make sure their kids get their way, who do not think about all the costs and sacrifices before they bring a child into the world, then whine about how hard it is to raise them, who abuse their children, then turn around and complain about how the childfree act "superior" (when some parents act like they are kings and queens just because they had kids) and are selfish and assume all childfree people hate children without considering all of the reasons why someone may not have wanted to be a parent.

Oh, yes, I loved Sadie's response, too. Consider that we get sick of parents thinking of us as being abnormal because we don't want kids.

Answer 4

Okay I work in childcare and I have no children so I see both ways especially with my friend's kid. We went to a restraint and it was 11 but she was tired early and my friend didn't realize it until 15 minutes into the order and her kid was screaming, climbing over and under the booth, hitting elderly people in the head and pulling their hair, throwing silverware and other objects, banging the glass window, crying, screaming, and when the food came she hit the food on the plates and somehow knocked the table over and it all fell on the floor. The kid was 2. I had never been so humiliated in all my life. My friend wouldn't let me help with anything and just kept whispering, no. stop, sit down please don't. My friend didn't want to leave. I've learned my lesson that when something gets like that I need to leave. It's a shame people like my friend ruin it for other people. Parents should know their children's limits and know their schedule. If the child sleeps at noon every day then going to eat at 11 and having to wait 25 minutes for food it maybe too much. Maybe plan activities to do with your child in public when your child is well rested and healthy. 9pm is too late for a toddler to be walking around the mall and 6am is too early for a child too. Children get board easily and waiting 25-45 minutes for food when they are hungry can be a real challenge.

Answer 5

Must be only the people you know because the childfree couples I know don't look at their friends who have children that way. We all respect each other's choices here. I don't think making generalized blanket statments about a group of people you have had obviously limited contact with is right. Since you don't know every single childfree couple on the planet you really have nothing to stand on to make such a blanket statement.

Answer 6

I can see a lot of peoples points. I am the mother of a 2-1/2 year old...so don't tell me that I don't know what I am talking about. I have watched parents with their children in a restaurant. ITs abominable!! They let tehir children run wild, and disturb other patrons...that is not acceptable. MY son has his moments, but then I remove him from the situation. We talk that he needs to behave, and he does his best. I make sure that he has a few quiet toys, or a book to read. We do pretty good. People need to start making their children behave when in public then they wouldn't be slagged so much.

Answer 7

Oh, the audacity of some people who actually want to enjoy a meal without having to listen to a screaming child whose parents refuse to quiet it or tripping over massive strollers the size of a small car! I am tired of parents who think the world should cater to them simply because they have kids.

Honey, I am childfree and let me tell you, I am NOT jealous! Not of stretch marks, not of money wasted on babysitting and diapers, not of running around haggard, not of having no sleep, not of not having any time with my husband, I could go on and on.

And just as you are tired of being called a breeder, etc., childfree people are sick of being called selfish and scared. Motherhood is not for everyone, and I applaud the women who don't have children for whatever reason rather than bring them into the world just because "everyone's doing it" and then end up abusing or neglecting them.

Answer 8

If parents would discipline their children, and not let them run wild then other's would not consider them brats. It's the parent's fault, not the kids. When parents let their kids get away with murder, what are others without children to think? Just because a kid is a kid doesn't mean that kid should have free reign over everything. If more parents kept their children in line, and not let them go over the line of desency then most people would not have problems with problem children.

Answer 9

OK - this is just obnoxious
I dont care if children are out in about and lets face it most parents arent bringing any children to "chez overpriced".
Now I am childless, by choice and I am in no way jealous.
Why would I be I chose this. I have nieces, yup they are cute, at my brothers house. I have never ever wanted to be a mom - even my Barbies skipped out on babies.
I dont judge you for having children dont judge me for not. I am happy you have what you want. I personally dont even think I would be a good mother, hell my mother was not a fan of raising kids and says if she had been born in another time she wouldnt have.
Its has nothing to do w getting fat or not leaving me enough time to do whatever you think us selfish people do all day. I dont want one plain and simple, never have never will - there are enough people on earth anyhow. Think of it this way the more of us that dont have kids the more you can have w/out having to feel guilty to adding to the overpopulation problem!

Answer 10

Trust me sweetheart, I am not jealous of having to cart a litter of kids around with me where ever I go. Not everyone enjoys the sound of germ-spreading kids running amuck screaming and yelling all the time while their parents do nothing to stop it cause instead of disciplining the kid theyve learned how to tune the NOISE out. You should've thought more before you had kids it sounds like you're really bitter about not being free to do what you want anymore.

Don't judge people if you don't wanna be judged.