to all the "chi" proponents here... A question....?

Question

have you ever successfully used your "powers" of chi in a fight or full contact sparring or even a semi realistic situation with a fully resisting opponent?

Explain.

If you cannot use it in a real fight then why do you waste your time training it?

I am referring to the "magical" chi explanations. Those who think chi is adrenalin, technique, structure, etc. don't need to answer- although you may of course.

curtisdavis, normally I would give you the best answer because it is funny, and likely the reality that "chi" blasters face- but Its a hallmark holiday today so I want to give them a chance to explain themselves. without being "dillmaned" for just one day and see if any will admit they havent' tried it against a resisting opponent.

2nd bassman:
I have in fact met one very excellent tai chi practitioner who uses it for combat- and another from DC who is excellent and uses it for combat as well and instructs his students that way. This question has nothing to do with "tai chi" but with people who believe in "chi" as a magical energy force that can push things around- as some people on this section have claimed to be able to do or have seen. While good tai chi is rare- I don't doubt that it can be used for fighting and thats not what I'm asking here.

Answer 1

I can't speak for the others, but I don't fight!

If by "powers of chi" you are talking about hurling a thunderbolt like Thor -- well... you need to do some "further investigation!"

Answer 2

Since there is no answer that you will accept, I will ask a question of my own. If a police officer trains every single day to fire his weapon at a stationary target to the point that he can hit a dime from 40 yards away, does that mean his training is wasted because he has never fired on a human being? Should all police officers be required to fire their weapons at live targets in order to qualify to carry a gun?

I do not pretend to have some mystical power or 'energy ball' as you like to call it. I cannot throw someone hundred's of feet with the tip of my finger. It is unfortunate that you have not had the opportunity to see for yourself and you base your opinion on what you have read. Of course there are frauds out there just like there are frauds for every martial art, every sport, and every other activity that you would pay someone else to teach you. As long as there is money to be made, there will be those that exploit the ignorant. But the frauds are the exception, not the norm.

You seem quite hard on George Dillman in particular. I've never met him or even read any of his books, so I can't speak about his validity. However, I'm sure if you are convinced he is a fake you could sign up for one of his seminars and take a video camera so you can post in on YouTube. Then volunteer for one of his demonstrations and put your theory to the test. As I said, I have no idea about which of you is right, but I'd certainly watch the vid on YouTube.

To specifically answer your question, No. I don't use Chi training for fighting. I practice Chi for healing (myself, not others).

Answer 3

How cool would a chi ball be. There are alot of friggin cars on the highway that would be getting a chi ball flung at them.

I saw a documentary on the martial arts where the sensei demonstrated a use of chi force. He looks real intense bends over and makes kind of a throwing punching motion to a guy ten feet away and he collapses. It looks exactly like the preachers who claim to heal the sick.

The closest thing to a real chi ball is the scene in episode 3 where Yoda battles Darth Sidious there are some serious chi balls flying in that movie.

Answer 4

I began practicing Yang style T'ai Chi about ten years ago because of the advice of a woman who, not only is an exceptional "hard style" martial artist, but also is a self-defense instructor for the US Air Force. Since then, I have found that the principles forming the basis of T'ai Chi are very useful in small-circle fighting for both grappling and breaking holds. And I gained a significant increase of speed when executing hard style techniques.
Not all styles of T'ai Chi perform their movements slowly. Yang style was developed as a rehabilitation exercise for the elderly and those injured in combat. I still practice it because of the neurological benefits and increase in flexibility I have gained. And the loosening of the spinal column while executing the form feels great, especially first thing in the morning!
Hopefully, you are living in a location where you can meet an authentic T'ai Chi instructor. If you don't, I would recommend taking a look at Terry Dunn's two T'ai Chi videos.

Answer 5

Yes, and it was just today! Although I wan't directly fighting another human being, I was harnessing the Chi flow within me to bring forth a great power!
Anyway I guess you know all about the snowstorms up here in the North and how many people are going off of the roads because of the ice. I came across one such misfortunate accident and decided to try and help out. The car (a Toyota) was halfway into a deep ditch on the side of the road.The driver, somewhat anxious, was still struggling to get out of the car. I shouted to him to stay in the car and try revving the engine when I gave the signal. When I was ready, standing in the bottom of the ditch with my knees bent and my palms flat against the bumper of the car(no gloves!). I flashed the signal and he started the wheels turning. When he began to pick up speed, I felt something coming from deep inside. With a sudden violent motion, I bent lower with the weight of the car pressing down on me. The driver sensed that something was wrong so he began to get out to help me. That's when I felt it...
With an energy that flowed like water and filled my body wih a cleansing warmth, I rose again with such force that I could feel my hands beginning to indent the metal of the car, and within mere seconds, the car had bounced up onto the road! I finally climbed out of what could've been my grave and walked up to the driver's window. He didn't roll down his window to talk but he gave me a look of both terror and amusement. Then he simply drove off! (I'm still mad at him!)

Answer 6

Hey there bluto you bastard! I see you got banned again. good job jerk off.

The "police officer" scenario doesn't work, you see you know that a gun will fire- the only training needed is training to hit the target.

This is not about me accepting or not accepting an answer- it is about bieng able to apply a part of your training to a realistic situation. if you can't apply something in a sparring, resistance or even partial resistance situation then what good is it as a martial art?

actually as far as dillman goes- there are plans to expose him. He is having a seminar in august. However dillman is a smart con-man. while he does have a legit background his "chi" no touch kos a con. There already is a youtube video of him bieng debunked on national geographic. He only "no touches" his followers. the national geographic exposed his type of bogus when a skeptic came into the mix and it failed. Dillman was exposed. I would love to have him try that crap on me or any other person and watch him fail.

Answer 7

I have used ab strengthening to help not get the wind knocked out of me. You ask why people train in this but it doesn't work, well I only train in some hard chi training so I believe that some only train one day and then believe that they can break through anything. They need to take time to train and develop their chi.

Answer 8

As all things there are different opinions and beliefs of what actual Chi is.
Chi is is the inner power in us all from my understanding. When you try to lift an object that weighs to much and can't, but in shear desperation you easily lift that same object that is a way of gaining use of your "inner Chi" powers.
Developing Chi gains one the ability to make use of it's extra power surge easily. Adreniline (spelling) is different in that it is a naturally produced chemical where as Chi comes from a change of belief or position of the mind.
If your down in the guard and someone is trying to mount you, that shear will to win is a form of Chi as you roll along looking for position. Learning to focus your power and energy is all responsive "Chi" to a situation. So correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't developing " Chi" actually add to your tool box of weapons?

Answer 9

I have in different ways. I havent used it to hit harder because it can be lethal but I've used it to take blows when I know I'll be hit but if i do get hit he hit i give will be stronger. I've used it for speed. For reaction and for endurance. The true challenge to a tai chi practitioner isnt to find chi but to find it when you need it most

Answer 10

My cheese balls, excuse me.... chi balls are some of the best. The last time I was in a full contact event I was kicked out for throwing a hadooken at my opponent and burning him alive... It was the red flame one not the blue flame one...

SO in protest of the ruling... I took on a crowd of hundreds of people. None of them were a match for me as I threw fire ball after fire ball burning them to a crisp.... then when one touched me on the back, I turned my body to electricity. I flew up in the air and looked at what I had done.... smiling I harnessed some more chi and produced a small nuclear reaction in my palm... unleashing it on the population.... ever heard of the Manhattan project? ya... I was in NY at the time...