I wuv you.
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2007-02-14 01:13:35
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answer #1
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answered by Jeanmarie 7
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If religious people go off on irrelevant tangents then you are guilty of the greatest impertinence:
"One clear sign that a religious theist has no genuine arguments against irreligious atheism or atheistic critiques of religious theism is when they go off on irrelevant tangents and attacks that have no clear connection to reality or even any topic that was being discussed. I have to wonder what's going on in such a person's life when they feel the need to launch into vituperative, personal attacks on people they don't know and for no apparent reason. "
What has that got to do with atheism? That is the most irrelevant tangent ever. As for an attack you basically accuse religious people of having a pathetic life because they have attacked atheists - yet you attack them on this very point.
But trying to leave the gaping illogic of your argument aside - I will try to give you an answer to what i think is your original question.
I think atheists are great fun, because they do seem well angry all teh time and really get frustrated at what they see is absolute denseness on the part of religious people. Obviously any person would react to accusations they are being duped, brainwashed, are stupid, are sheep - any person on earth would react.
So again you have attacked religious people - by attributing this trait specifically to them - but everyone, all over the globe, is guilty of it. I am guilty of it because in defense of religious people i have belittled your argument - so it is not just the preserve of religious people, but of all people, including me and you. so let us not attack any more
Let us love like our Lord loved
Thank you thank you
2007-02-14 01:20:45
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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Jim...I think that some Christians say Atheism is a religion because some atheist are claiming it is. Months ago I asked that question and had several retorts (not replies, lol) that it indeed was a religion, "with books and everything and even their own Bible" (I looked it up, that part is true).
Atheism is not a mental disorder...I have the whole DSM-IVR and the proposed updates for the DSM-V...I promise you it is NOT in there, lol.
Jim...I know you are a wise person and I know you realize that the attacks, personal or otherwise are equal from all sides. I spend too much time on here and I find myself in such a defensive mode that I go against my own beliefs...so I am going to limit time on here or just quit it altogether. When hate and vengeance becomes the norm...we have all lost something precious and that is respect and love...not as a religious tenet, but as a human one.
PEG
2007-02-14 01:50:19
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answer #3
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answered by Dust in the Wind 7
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Atheism is essentially a religion, because it stems from the belief that all that is came into being from the Nothing. That the reaction of all that is came from the action of the Nothing. Which goes against the Laws of Chance and the Laws of Physics. You can not take an empty chamber, vaccum out all particles, and in a trillion years see a Big Bang, simply can not happen.They require belief because you can not prove that all that is came from the Nothing god. Athiesm is a religion of the nothing, it requires no practices, no morals, no values, no respect for anything, it is at it's core nothingness. And followers of the Nothing god probably feel empty inside, they are becoming like their Nothing god, nothing inside. If an athiest wishes to say that it is not a religion then they have to prove that all that is in existance did indeed come from the Nothing. And prove that such a complex universe was all by an accident. But once you ask, "What caused the accident?" The Athiest can not tread, if they say anything other than, "nothing" they are no longer athiest. If they can not prove this and millions of other questions and wonders of the world, then Atheism remains to be a religion, it's god is the Nothing. It's easier to avoid belief and attack those who are faithful, than it is to be enlightened. Essentially, athiesm is for spiritually lazy people. Or in their view they are "nothingness lazy people".
2007-02-14 07:48:29
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answer #4
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answered by Chris 2
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We human beings tend to be pretty egocentric--underneath it all, we tend to think and act as if the whole universe revolves around us and our beliefs, wishes, preferences and desires.
If I absolutely LOVE something (whether it be Chinese food, classical music, a TV show, a political party, or whatever), it baffles me, and probably upsets me as well, when other people don't seem to LOVE it, too.
So it is not surprising that people who feel deeply and strongly about their religious beliefs freak out when other don't "see the Light." There just has to be something seriously WRONG with such people--they must be crazy, or perverse, or evil communists, or in league with Satan, or something....
And although such non-believers may have well-considered reasons and convictions behind their rejection of our cherished religious beliefs, we will tend to dismiss these as being stupid and as representing further proof of the insidious and perverted mentality of these fools.
When someone rejects something we cherish, we may feel not only outraged but also threatened, and cling ever more tightly to what we value. We may lash out at the non-believers, to try to "shake them awake." And if they refuse to wise-up, we may try to rip them down. By doing so we get back at the stupid non-believers, while at the same time tightening our hold on our own beliefs, feeling self-righteous and smug in the process.
2007-02-14 01:45:07
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answer #5
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answered by clicksqueek 6
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Hello pot... this is kettle. You spew out your diatribe using verbage that requires a dictionary to transcribe. Are you compensating for something?
As for your original question, religion is just a set of ideas or ideology by which someone lives their lives. By this definition atheism is a religion as much as Islam, Christianity or any deistic religion. And since we are dealing with those things which, ultimately, can neither be proven nor disproven in this life, atheism requires just as much faith. Therefore the argument comes that is does not matter how much faith you have but what your faith is in.
Those who say that atheists have a mental disorder are speaking out of order. I know many atheists who are intellegent, reasonable, rational who argue with an open mind without resorting to name calling or or having illusions of grandeur (I notice you like to capitalize atheism). I would count Sho-Nuff in this category.
You, however, would not be included in this category. You are arrogant, self deluded and think that by using big words it will compensate for your weak, nonsensical arguments.
I hope that this helps.
2007-02-14 01:43:03
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answer #6
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answered by Bud 5
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It is very hard not to ATTACK some people on here, seeing the lack of scruples some people have. Am I wrong to challenge someone who is an OBVIOUS NUT BAR and TROLL? And since when is, I don't believe in God, he is a {fill in expletive} (add ridiculous slur} a more enlightened question or answer? I have seen things BOTH ways on here, don't be so sanctimonious, to suggest that it is the theists ONLY.
2007-02-14 01:32:54
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answer #7
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answered by great gig in the sky 7
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I believe most religious people say Atheism is a religion for lack of a better word. Only ignorant people say that Atheists have a mental disorder. Tolerance and acceptance of others beliefs is a basic Christian value to me.
2007-02-14 01:22:04
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answer #8
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answered by butrcupps 6
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Aw, heck, Jim. I'm religious and I don't do any of that.
And I know I'm not alone.
For the record, this is my basic attitude towards atheists:
I actually don't care a whit if you respect my beliefs or not. I'm not interested in converting you, or even in having you show curiosity about my religion.
I'm perfectly content to leave you alone in that area of your life, and to have you leave me alone in that area of mine. I am more than willing, I'm downright happy to work with you on common goals, and to respect that you come to those causes from a different perspective. I won't tell you that your motivations are wrong because they are not the same as mine.
And I don't think less of you for your unbelief.
I'd prefer, though, that when I am speaking with other Pagans about Paganism, you don't butt in on the conversation to tell us that we're delusional. I won't horn in on your conversations with other atheists to tell you you're wrong for not believing.
2007-02-14 02:53:43
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answer #9
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answered by Praise Singer 6
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The answer is obvious. They find it a lot easier to attack an ideology than to attack straightforward disbelief-they know that disbelief is the logical default so they have nothing to challenge it with, hence they are left with ad hominem attacks and misrepresentation of the facts.
2007-02-14 01:21:51
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answer #10
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answered by Anonymous
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enable us only look on the psychological element of this reality. "all those who have self assurance _____ are ____." it really is black and white questioning, an identical questioning that non secular fundamentalists are stuck in. i'd upload that one of those questioning is likewise utilized by technique of racists. that's source is worry. no human being is in elementary words defined by technique of one element of their lifestyles, even one as dramatic as faith. yet to boot the reality might want to be an perception into the guy's psychological projections of how they felt even as they were a theist or had faith, and why they had to drop their faith. that's totally telling with the aid of the undeniable fact that could no longer a medical reality, it really is a feeling of inadequacy.
2016-11-03 10:23:51
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answer #11
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answered by Anonymous
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