that so many kids have blackbelts, it dosent mater if they start from a young age, you see kids that dont even deserve that rank
as they cant defend themselves
i could probably take out half of the kids
the adults are a differnt story, they actualy are quite hard
so to get a black belt all you need to do is learn a few paterns
quite distraught
what do you think of this
2007-02-14 00:56:54 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports ➔ Martial Arts
Some styles have age requirements to get your black belt. In Judo you must be 15 to grade for your black belt. And I can assure you a 15 year old black belt in Judo will probably kick most people's asses. Now if you talking about a 6'2" 250lb 35 y/o man fighting a 5'6" 145 teenager well clearly it is not an even match but I still don't think it will be very easy for the man. There are some dojos yes that make it too easy for people to get there black belts but that also means that the adult black belts in those dojos are not properly trained either. And in styles like Karate and Tae Kwan Do where training is often not full contact and is based around Kata forms then oviously the person is not trained to use their skills in a fight. But that doesn't dis credit there knowlege of the techniques. We all know people who got straight A's in school but didn't go any where in life or the guy that got the job straight out of university but doesn't know what the hell he is doing.
I think what you need to do is start focussing on your training. If you are training in an art like Judo or JuJitsu or even Aikido then you know there ranks are fully earned, based on the training styles. But if you are training in a art that has you standing in a line kicking and striking the air. Well then your black belt, based on your staitments, is worthless. Because you have no real fighting training. So yes then a grown man would be capable of beating up a bunch of kids. But only based on size and strength. But I tell you what, when your ready step into a Judo or JuJitsu dojo and tel the 15 yo black belt they're weak and their skils are ****...
13 years of Judo
5 years grecco roman and freestyle wrestling.
2007-02-14 04:16:36 · answer #1 · answered by Judoka 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
There are a lot of black belts of all ages who don't deserve their rank. Since MA isn't regulated in this country, anyone can open a school, claim some high rank & hand out belts.
As for children with black belts, it is about a lot more than fighting. At the same level of training, size & strength do matter. So does age. I'm a 3rd degree black belt & I know I can't fight as well as 3rd degree black belts 1/2 my age.
2007-02-14 17:30:08 · answer #2 · answered by yupchagee 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I can't speak for all schools, but there is a school nearby that has a way of doing it where it seems to worked.
They have different groups: Kids (5-12), Juniors (13-17), and Adults (18+). Each of them are trained in separate classes. Each group has the different colored belts within them.
The way I understand it, a black belt in Kids is equal to a Junior Yellow Belt (the first rank). Once a kid turns 13, he will be taking junior classes and start over again. And so on.
It is more of a tool of motivation for young kids than anything else.
Doesn't bother me at all.
2007-02-14 13:05:10 · answer #3 · answered by Khyber6 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I think you are realizing what most other martial artists have already known. Many schools have the McDojo attitude. Get students, advance them fast and collect a check every month. Unfortunately, the people that are at the schools that actually teach a very good program have to educate people on the difference. I think of it as having the burden of the police. A few bad officers really tarnish the image for the good ones. It is and always will be an uphill battle.
Keep this in mind, pick and choose your battles. If you are in a good program, your abilities will do your talking for you.
2007-02-14 12:28:41 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
I agree, too many schools hand out rank based on weak requirements. It took me 7 years of training 6 to 7 days a week to earn mine and many people can now earn a black belt in a year, and all that happens is they give the rank the reputation of being meaningless
2007-02-14 15:08:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
Welcome to the world of TDK and McDojos in America. Have you ever noticed how Americans want things now and in great quantity, the same is applied to Karate today. Along with this the meaning of "Black Belt" has been watered down, to an American Black belt means I know everything when it really means they know NOTHING. I have been taking Shito Ryu for 4 years now and am still a brown belt and have 2 years more to go till I get my black belt. Our final test to get the black belt along with preforming all of the Katas is to defeat the classes top student in a sparing match (no board breaking here).
2007-02-14 09:37:22 · answer #6 · answered by Roger J 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Yeah that is why many people lose respect for martial arts. I'm always on verge of blushing when people find out I do martial arts.
Please check out www.bullshido.net They talk about this situtation a lot. In fact they're trying to figure out a way to reduce this practice.
oh and btw I wish there was a gym like as Dragon Rider have around here.
2007-02-14 10:10:42 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
well I am not entirely sure about taekwando or how it is in America, but in Germany, where I do Judo... there are some brown-belts who have done Judo all their lives... their parents are brownbelts and have been doing it all their lives... it is very hard to pass the black-belt test... or any belt test for that matter. They make sure you earn the belt before you get it. In the entire group there are only three men with a black belt... the trainer is a 3rd degree black belt.
2007-02-14 09:01:06 · answer #8 · answered by ♥ Dragon Rider ™ 3 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Another good reason to switch to Taiji or some other martial art that doesn't have a ranking system!
No mad rush to see how fast you can advance because you are only competing against YOURSELF!
When I took TKD and Shotokan I was thrilled to get my advancement...
Now that I've grown up and gained some INSIGHT into what martial arts are all about, I have lost all interest in rank!
2007-02-14 10:29:24 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
nowadays martial arts aren't seen as they used to be seen a couple of years ago.
More often, people do not practice martial arts so they can protect themselves - it is increasingly useless against knives and guns.
Therefore, people practice martial arts pretty much as they practice any other sport, such as tennis or gymnastics, and they are ranked baring that in mind. You don't get a black belt when your able to fight properly, you get it when you fulfill some pre-determined requisites. just as a 12-year-old gets a 10 and a gold medal at the Olympics gym...
2007-02-14 09:10:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋