Evolutionist claim that all scientists are on their side?

Question

John West, associate director of the Center for Science & Culture, said more scientists than ever before are "standing up and saying that it is time to rethink Darwin's theory of evolution in light of new scientific evidence that shows the theory is inadequate."
"Darwinists are busy making up holidays to turn Charles Darwin into a saint, even as the evidence supporting his theory crumbles and more and more scientific challenges to it emerge," West said.
The list of signatories, now numbering 700, also includes member scientists from National academies of Science in Russia, Czech Republic, Hungary, India (Hindustan), Nigeria, Poland and the U.S. The list truly is a "Who's Who" of scientists in the world today, and now another 100 ranking leaders have added their signatures to a challenge to Darwin's theory.
The names include top scientists at MIT, UCLA, Ohio State, U of Washington, U of Pennsylvania, U Georgia, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Texas A&M, Duke, U Peruglia, British Museum

Alex the only church as you put it that ever said the earth was flat was the pope and vatican. That does not represent all religions or all of christianity. There are repeated references in the Bible stating the earth is a sphere and was believed to be by most early religions. There was also scientists of the time that thought the earth was flat too.

Never claimed it was unbiased or the majority, I just posted this due to the statement frequently posted here that Evolution is a fact and all science agrees. All science does not agree, and no one discussing this issue is unbiased for either side

Answer 1

I would never claim that all scientists accept evolution. However, it is the scientifically accepted theory. There is a difference.

The difference between those of us who happen to agree with the theory of evolution is that we don't mind if these ideas are questioned and re-evaluated. Charles Darwin did most of his research in the 19th century ... if we simply accepted this at face value and didn't support the continued research and discovery of where we come from, we probably wouldn't be atheists. There's no possibility that all the answers would come from Darwin; in fact, most of the current ideas about evolution come from Darwin's predecessors.

However, the fact remains that even though we may not have all the answers when it comes to evolution ... it doesn't negate that there is NO proof whatsoever of creation or intelligent design. I say keep digging. I would welcome any new scientifically sound evidence that gives us an idea of the origin of life.

Answer 2

John West, of The Discovery Institute is hardly an unbiased source. The DI has pasted this list of scientists who don't believe in evolution for years. They represent less than 1% of scientists. There's not a lot of Nobel Laureates on it now, are there? It's not so much a "who's who", more just a "who???"

This list has been reviewed and debunked by the good folks at TalkReason as well. Many of the quotes used are products of quote mining or in some cases complete fabrications.

What is this supposed to prove exactly?

Answer 3

I did a quick look up of "The Center for Science & Culture" and just as I expected, it's a conservative think tank. There should be no such thing as a "conservative" or a "liberal" science center. Science is science, and should be based purely on the facts, and it shouldn't be just trying to make science fit your agenda.

The reason they're saying that is because the Church is afraid of science, they were afraid of it a couple hundred years ago when they said that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. Now they say that evolution isn't real, and they're completely wrong. There is no scientific evidence to say that an invisible man created everything, and any scientist who says there is insane.

Answer 4

It doesn't just come down to Evolution and Creationism there are alternatives within the scientific community to the theory of evolution. Most times it isn't even printed in journals because Evolution is the current paradigm science follows. A couple writers had their theory thrown out by so many journals they wrote their own book and had it published. These are actual scientific progressive theories and the community won't even look at them as legitimate.

We can't deny that evolution exists, we see it everywhere in our world. The thing we have to question is whether or not it should be the theory that guides and defines how we came to be humans and when we aren't even allowed to see other theories on it in science it makes it hard to come to that conclusion.

Answer 5

Let's have the exact names, and articles they've published. Let's also have the schools they attended, and subjects they've studied.

How much money does anyone want to bet that these people debated a claim in evolution in favor of another way of looking at it...and are now being as cited as not supporting evolution?

There is no legitamate debate on whether evolution exists. The only debate is how and why it happens.

Try again.

Gabriel Bravenstocker, associate director of the buttocks center of theology, said that more priests then ever now believe that star penguins ate God. The list of 700 people that signed this statement also includes priests that graduated from the following schools......Notre Dame, laSalle, Villanova, Harvard, blah blah blah...the list is a true who's who of priests, although we aren;t going to name them.

Answer 6

I don't know of any evolutionist who would say that all scientists are on their side.

But what's the evidence against it that they're talking about in the question here? Why not just state what that evidence is, instead of making allusions to it?

Show it to me, and I'm more than happy to chuck the theory out in favor of something more scientifically defensible, if such a theory exists. I just haven't seen anything so far that stands up to as much scrutiny and physical evidence as the broad theory of evolution.

Solidly debunk evolution and propose something with more supporting physical evidence, and you'll have won me over. But in a scientific debate, resorting to name-dropping instead of facts and evidence in order to win people over is just sad.

Answer 7

Darwin isn't a Saint: he preformed no miracles that I'm aware of... :)

But seriously, evolution is one of the closet theories we have to fact in science. It baffles me that a scientist can actually deny and trash talk the theory. Also, these scientist represent an extremely small number of scientist. This is one scenario where I would stick with the majority.

Answer 8

Good. Rethink Darwinism. Rethink Christianity. Rethink Hinduism. Nothing should get a "ticket to ride". Critical thought is awesome.

Evolution is the only story of life that is based on physical evidence.

13% of Christians believe in evolution. 90% of Navajos believe in Evolution.

Answer 9

The vast majority of scientists acknowledge evolution.

I would never claim ALL scientists do.

By the way, the user "startthisover" is wrong. Darwin DIDN'T claim "I was all wrong and I now praise the Christian Lord" right before he died. That myth has been put to bed. Don't buy into it now that it has been so thoroughly exposed as a LIE.

Answer 10

no issue has 100% agreement. that's what makes it an issue and not a taken for granted fact that no one ever thinks about. everyone wants to rub a vistory in the other sides face. teaching microevolution helps society, everything else is basically just curiousity. if you need some scientific idea being discredited to strengthen your faith, then your faith isn't worth much anyway.

and in light of finding out your science experts are through a conservative think tank, you're kind of an idiot.