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No prayer in school anymore, some want the word "God" taken off of our currency, some even want the word "God" taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance. Where does it end? If these people who are old enough to remember, things have gotten so much worse in this country since these things have been taken out and I am fed up with it. I know I will get alot of flack over this and I dont give a damn.

2007-02-13 09:38:35 · 50 answers · asked by shirley e 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I didnt ask for a history lesson, I already knew that.

2007-02-13 10:20:44 · update #1

50 answers

I totally agree...what is our country coming to? Like you said...since "God" has been taken away...morales are being taken away. And I'm sure I'm gonna catch flack for this too...but I don't care either!

2007-02-13 09:42:26 · answer #1 · answered by skrubz69 2 · 3 10

I think you are incorrect. Number one, there hasn't been prayer in school for about 3 decades. It's not like it just went away yesterday. And the reason there should not be prayer in schools is that (a) it's not a church, and kids are in school to learn - they should not be preached to, (b) whose religion or denomination should reign supreme? Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism? If Christianity, then is it Catholicism? Mormonism? Methodism? Episcopalianism? Lutheranism? (frankly, I'm Lutheran, and I don't want Catholics preaching to my kids at school).

On to the currency.... note that "God" first appeared on SOME of the coins almost 100 years after this country was founded. So, understand that it was a radical change to PUT the motto on the money, and in the good old days of the "founding fathers" they had no such need for the motto. http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml

On to the pledge of allegiance: The Pledge of Allegiance originally did NOT say "under god" - that was added in the 1950s during the Eisenhower administration. You've said things have gotten worse since then, right (in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s)? Well, maybe it was putting that language in the pledge that started the downhill slide, ay?

Now as for things getting worse. It is a natural thing for people of every generation to complain about how much "worse" things are getting. The kids don't respect their elders anymore, morality is ignored, and sodom and gomorrah are returning, but in the "good old days" things were grand and everyone loved one another in peace and joy. However, every generation thinks that, and it is a MYTH in every generation. Things were never any different. People have always fought, and fornicated, and blasphemed. People have always been greedy and avaricious. People have also always been good, and kind and caring. i.e. there has always been good and bad.

What "good old days" do you want to return to? The days of Dred Scott, when the black man had no rights a white man was bound to respect? The days of segregation and black and white water fountains and the back of the bus? How about the days before social security and Medicare? How about the 1930s when 25% of the population was out of work and millions lived in cardboard boxes and Hoovervilles in central park and the mall in Washington DC? How about the good old days when child labor was Constitutionally Protected? How about the days when people used to routinely shuttle pregnant girls off to have babies away from their families, and imprisoned homosexuals for being gay? How about the days when you could be arrested for peaceful protest? How about the days before the cops had to read you your rights when you were arrested?

Which decade was better than this one? The 90s? The 80s? The 70s? I assure you, I heard all the same complaints about how "things were getting worse" in each of those decades. What about the 60s with Vietnam and mass unrest throughout the US? How about the 1950s with a puritanical society plagued by McCarthyism? How about the 1940s with WWII and millions and food/fuel rations?

I'm not giving you flack. I'm explaining to you where you are wrong. God is fine. God is good. But he does not need to be on money or in the pledge to be honored. He does not need to be forced on people. He does not need the government's help.

2007-02-13 09:57:13 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

As others have pointed out, the "under God" phrase was only added to the Pledge in the 50's during the height of the "red scare" and McCarthyism.

It's funny you should equate good times with an era that was synonymous with people's careers and lives being ruined because of spurious "witch hunts", just like the Inquisition and Salem witch trials of old. Thinking differently is apparently just as much of a heresy to you as it was to the witch hunters in those days.

And besides being unconstitutional because it sanctions an official religion, prayer in school never solved a damn thing anyway. Prayer is about as useful as pitching a penny in the wishing well.

Nobody's stopping you from praying privately or in your Church are they? Nope.

But that's not good enough for you. No, you have to have that reassurance that everyone else be made to think like you, because you're too insecure in your own views without having the "herd" to back them up.

Sad that you can't think for yourself.

And for those saying that without God people would commit all kinds of wrongs, well if you need God to tell you that killing or robbing someone, etc., is wrong, then you've got a pretty infantile mind. Any rational adult can figure out that harmful acts committed against another person is wrong.

For that matter, Romans had a very well-developed system of justice and ethical philosophies (in fact the state of Louisiana still derives their judicial code from remnants of the old Roman code, which the Napoleonic code lifted from) and they believed in a multitude of "false" gods.

So how is that they came up with a well-developed legal system if they didn't believe in God? They surely didn't borrow it from that collection of horsehockey known as the Levitical laws.

2007-02-13 10:08:08 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

1. Students can pray; before school, on their breaks, at lunch, after school.


2. The founding fathers didn't have the word "God" on currency, that was added after the civil war.

3. God was added to the pledge of Allegiance, some idiots felt that communist wouldn't be able to say the word "God".

I'm old enough to remember quite a bit, so if you weren't there back in the 50's, please don't act like you have any real idea what things were like back then.

You probably will get flack, from those of us who actually know what we are talking about.

2007-02-13 10:51:07 · answer #4 · answered by Black Dragon 5 · 1 1

Some people want the word "God" taken out of things because we do not all have the same religion. If "Allah" were in its place, I'm sure people would have problems with that, too. Religion does not have to encompass every single aspect of our culture. Things have always been bad; I am certain that the elimination of the word "God" has not caused a rise in crime or any other bad situation. If Christians want to pray, they don't need formal prayer in public places. Hell, you can go in a closet and pray if you want! You don't need everyone looking at you or acknowledging that you are doing it.

And if you really didn't care about the responses you'd get, you wouldn't have posted this question.

2007-02-13 10:15:27 · answer #5 · answered by Persephone 6 · 2 1

Removing God from everything (songs, bills, etc) is not an attack on God.

Religious people want God mentioned everywhere because he is everywhere (so they say- including the back room where little kids are being raped by priests, but I digress). Removing God from all of those things allows me, you, and such to have varying views of the "Great Spirit" (whom ever it might be in your view). Allowing the world to have a clear view of the world without God being thrown in everyone's face will not change true believer's view and it will allow some others that have no clue and need the crutch of religion to seek it out.

I agree that sometimes God's name should be left in (I still say the Pledge with "God" mentioned).

Keep your mind open and do not judge ("least he be judged")

2007-02-13 09:48:04 · answer #6 · answered by Harmon 4 · 5 0

It's funny you mention the Pledge of Allegiance....In the original, the line read "One nation, indevisable, with liberty and justice for all".....no mention of God. The words "under God" weren't added until 1952 when the conservative Christians decided that the country was wandering away from the church because of influences like rock-n-roll music. In my opinion, those words should never have been added in the first place, because they're not true. Regardless of what you believe, saying that we're a nation under God is innacurate. We're a nation under many gods (thanks to the first ammendment). We have Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Agnostics, Muslims, Atheists, Satanists, the list goes on and on. But the point is that we're not a nation under one god regarless of what you believe in, so that statement simply isn't true.

I think the reason people are pushing to have things like that removed, including prayer in school, is because we're tired of feeling like outsiders in our own country. I have no problem with you believing however you like and I expect the same respect in return. Why should people who don't believe in a specific god be forced to pray to him? Why should a country based on religious freedom and freedom from religious persecution be represented by one religion's banners?

2007-02-13 10:25:16 · answer #7 · answered by OhKatie! 6 · 2 1

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2016-09-29 01:56:32 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

god isn't part of anything, so why have the word??
i shouldn't have your god shoved down my throat everywhere i turn, i hope they take the word "god" off everything. (they haven't yet, btw, so how can things "have gotten so much worse in this country since these things have been taken out"????)

lots of people don't want your god in their faces everyday. there ARE other beliefs out there, ya know. the government and schools shouldn't be pushing a certain religion over any others.

2007-02-13 09:46:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

Just because there's more than one religion in this world. I honestly have no problem with the word 'God', but if I replaced it with the word Buddha, Satan, Love, or just about anything else, I'd get a pretty nasty response as anybody could imagine. I just think that narrowing it down to strictly Christianity is not what should have even happened in the first place. What's also funny (as a side note), is that the word GOD appears on currency... somehow, spirituality and materialism have become one, huh?

But in conclusion, no - I don't have any problem with it, but it's fine by me if the word gets eradicated.

2007-02-13 09:43:23 · answer #10 · answered by ♥♫!♫♥ 3 · 5 2

I'm sorry but could you take the G word out of your question? Just kidding.

It seems that in our "politically correct" world, we find the need to bend over backward to make Christianity less prominent in North America.

Someone even took offense to a Christmas tree as a Christian symbol in a government office this past season and the official tree had to be removed.

I think we have gotten way out of hand on the P.C. circuit. Quite frankly, I don't care whether my money says "In dogs we trust", but to force everyone to change their way of doing things to accomodate a chosen few is just not the way things should be done.

No one is forcing the person spending the money with the word "God" on it to learn or convert to Christianity. And if it said "Allah" or "Shiva" on it instead, it would still buy me the latest Madonna CD.

2007-02-13 09:56:58 · answer #11 · answered by SteveN 7 · 1 3

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