Lucifer, can someone please give me a bible scripture about this 'entity'?
Apparently if it's not in the bible it's myth, so tell me why this ancient Roman God who bears light is evil, by only using your bible, and every passage or script you use should have the words 'Lucifer' in them, but 'ONE' rule...(not 10, lmao) YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE KING JAMES BIBLE?
If you do insist on using the King James, why not blame Yahweh?
Here is a passage from the King James:
[7] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
So, in your 'holy' scripture ALL that is evil, IS YAHWEH, so blame him, he CONFESSES he created evil...
2007-02-13
05:42:20
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David Q : ha ha ha, you should see yourself from this angel lmao...
TOO MANY RULES????, 1 ruel is to many for those who want to give every homsexual and non-Christian rules? please...
I know it works like the yin yang, but not everyone does, consider this a bearing of light.
2007-02-13
06:28:57 ·
update #1
mommynow:I want a pre-King James 'bible scritputre', but Lucifer is not from their religion (like you said it's not Jewish), so why do they demonize everything but their own, it selfish, i just wanted to 'show them the path', a little gift from this 'sinner' to them...
2007-02-13
06:34:18 ·
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came back to tell ya i kinda figured out whatcha were asking and saw your note - i always think that's kinda weird too, how xtians want to claim judaism but not claim it at the same time - anyway, i guess it's better to vent that kind of stuff here than in real life - i'm pretty cool with xtians, i don't bother them if they don't pick on me, but i had one ask me why i "turned my back on christ" and i put on my best hillbilly accent, to match hers, and said "cause i hate jesus!" didn't mean to sound like i was judging you or anything - i leave that to certain "others"! take care.
2007-02-13 06:17:40
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answered by mommynow 3
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The Scriptures never refer to Satan specifically as "Lucifer" or a "morning star". The Scripture which some mistakenly apply to Satan is actually referring to the king of Babylon. The Scripture is quite clear, and even the supposed name "Lucifer" is a mistranslation of the sarcastic term "shining one" as a reference to the Babylonian king's former glory.
(Isaiah 14:4,12) [The prophet Isaiah] must raise up this proverbial saying against the king of Babylon and say:... O how you have fallen from heaven, you shining one, son of the dawn! How you have been cut down to the earth, you who were disabling the nations!
However, the Scriptures do refer to all angels as "morning stars" and "sons of God", such as in describing the angelic response to the creation of Earth by Jehovah God.
(Job 38:4,7) Where did you happen to be when [Jehovah] founded the earth? ...When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?
Jesus is elevated as much more than a typical angel by the unique designations "the bright morning star" and "archangel".
(Revelation 22:16) I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you people of these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star.
(Numbers 24:17) A star will certainly step forth out of Jacob, And a scepter will indeed rise out of Israel.
(1 Thessalonians 4:14-16) Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice
2007-02-13 15:40:10
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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The KJV is the one which named Lucifer. It is part of Isaiah 14 which is a chapter about how Israel will recover its glory.
The New American Standard translates the verse as "O star of the morning, son of the dawn!" as opposed to the KJV "O Lucifer, son of the morning!" It is used by the KJV because people at the time would recognize Lucifer as a another name for the planet Venus, also known as the morning star.
But I don't understand your question. The creation of evil is a much broader topic than the creation of Lucifer who, even if you accept the personification, is merely a fallen angel. Who created Satan is what you really need to pursue. Basically, Xians dodge the question of did god create Satan and, if so, why and, if not, who did?
It they didn't run things their circumlocutions would be funny.
2007-02-13 14:00:32
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answered by Dave P 7
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Lucifer was an archangel in Heaven who tried to overtake the throne. He was banished from there and made ruler of Hell. Essentially, he was not evil, but his actions turned him from God, and he became "evil". The KJV uses "Lucifer" as you will see in the source I listed. It also gives a Latin translation of the verse, which also uses Lucifer, but in the NRSV Lucifer is referrred to "Day Star", going back to the meaning "light bearer".
2007-02-13 14:04:59
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answered by sisterchick1274 2
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Isa 14:12 how art thou fallen Lucifer son of the morning...
What value would choice have if there was nothing to choose between? Because something exists (was created) does that mean you have to choose the evil? For the Christian all "evil," testings, trials, hardships of life - whatever - only help us to exercise our spiritual muscles so to speak. We can choose to overcome and be stronger or we can choose to be overcome. God gave us a "spiritual gym" to do spiritual "work outs" - what you do with it depends on you. Stop trying to blame God for your bad decisions.
2007-02-13 13:59:38
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answered by wd 5
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First you ask for Bible scripture, then forbid the use of the King James Bible in answering. Gee, is this a trick question or something?
2007-02-13 13:46:47
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answered by cmw 6
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You are so twisted by the enemy. Get thee behind me Satan. Why should we can we not to answer your question from the word of God even Jesus used scripture when he was tempted in the wilderness. Please turn your heart back and find the love of Christ he is reaching out to you right know.
2007-02-13 13:56:22
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answered by David Q 1
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Fireball226 just ruled out Omniscience as one of God's trademark "powers", I see.... nice job!!!
Dont you just love how when you really let them have it, they fail to respond?? Had you any misspellings in your posting, they would have attacked those instead. But, having none to attack, they simply state you are providing too many rules... What a crock.
2007-02-13 13:52:33
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answered by YDoncha_Blowme 6
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Your name is paradox and you can not get this?
It is the same as yen and Yang.
You can not have good if you do not and evil.
There is no up if there is no down.
2007-02-13 13:52:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Such a tight box to turn around in, I think I'll skip answering this one as you obviously have your answer already worked out.
Too many rules for me
2007-02-13 13:47:31
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answered by arewethereyet 7
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