Are Atheists who insult Believers blaming the victim?

Question

Most people are taught their faith from an early age, and would face enormous social consequences for giving it up.

Are we blaming them for their oppressive communities rather than addressing the real problem, the teachings that keep them held captive?

Answer 1

that same 'victim' would shun any other 'victim' for leaving their commune


Everyone in their community holds each other down, victims have no problem keeping each other captive, so it is the 'victims' fault still.
They all just need a hard knock to the head

BTW: can't save a victim by choice

Answer 2

Well I as an atheist sees those two categories as pretty much the same thing. Either the Scriptures are right or they are wrong (I of course see them as wrong), but I was not an atheist my entire life; I used to be a very devout Christian. Knowing what I know now, I understand that a certain amount of faith came simply from intellectual laziness: I just didn't have the courage to fill out the syllogism because doing so would be detrimental to my faith.

Blaming the Scriptures is also almost identical to blaming the believer from the eyes of the believer. If you insult the Bible, the average Christian will take it _very_ personally. Critically analyzing the Koran can get you executed in some countries. While it is certainly a tragedy that so few people are able to escape the indoctrination that ensnares them in their youth, it is a sad fact that the critical freethinker must be willing to hurt some peoples' feelings, as it is impossible discredit the Scriptures in an objective way that is somehow disconnected from the emotions of the believer.

Answer 3

No, I often say that it's because of indoctrination that believers turn out as they do. And I DO address the faith rather than the person. Unless I'm joking around (in which case the question was most likely in jest as well), I address the overall root problem (faith) instead of bandying about ad hominems.

You and I both completely understand what it's like to have a long perpetuated mythology pounded into our heads as truth since infancy (probably you more than me, though). We also both know how it's entirely possible, even with all the social pressures and possible discriminatory reactions, to break free.

I know some people aren't as capable. I understand that some people may never function without religion. My hope is that those who CAN will someday be strong enough to do as we have done... and in time, less and less people will be forced to face this struggle.

Answer 4

I attempt to no longer insult christians, yet i will comprehend why some do. that would not make it appropriate, nor do I condone such. yet basically so as which you're sparkling in this, i'm an atheist, yet no longer precisely anti-theistic. i'm an avid student of international history and comprehend that theistic perception motives greater issues than it solves, surprisingly contained regarding the three maximum primary religions contained in u.s.. however the reason of that's the intollerance of alternative religions or theologies that are geared up-in to those religions. It produces specific varieties of habit, via fact it demands specific ideals that unavoidably separate the adherents of those religions from the "evil-doers and unbelievers" of alternative theological ideals. 2 human beings would have such fairly some issues in common that they might view eachother as brothers, until they locate out they have diverse theological ideologies (alongside with one being a Christian, the different being a Norse Heathen or Pagan). they might the two be solid people who choose the main suitable for themselves and their families or perhaps eachother, however the religion will rigidity considered one of them to think of the different is evil and to no longer be linked with. Such thinking can certainly be considered delusional, via fact in actual certainty that neither desires to injury the different in any way, however the ideology that between the individuals possesses makes him/her have faith it fairly is strictly what the different intends to do. without the religious ideology, the single would settle for the different and the two would get alongside effective, and the two be solid examples to definitely everyone else, yet in actual certainty, the religion of one does certainly steer away from this from happening. some call this faith, some call it brainwashing. some call it being spiritually organic, some call it idiotic. some call it virtuous, some call it pathetic. some call it righteous, some call it delusional, and so on... returned, i do no longer individually use those words very oftentimes, yet some techniques are worth of being defined via those words.

Answer 5

Atheists, or any other person for that matter, who insult others have their own personal issues (more than likely have nothing to do with religion) that they are not dealing with properly and are taking it out on others. It is a person's way of venting anger that may not necessarily have to do with the topic they are talking about. It's no different than an alcoholic who drinks to hide their problems. I am speaking of people in general, not atheists.

Answer 6

Im a Pagan, and i know that some atheists might seem horrified that people raise thier children any religion, yet, I dont know of any Pagans in jail, or doing cruel things to animals, I dont think all religion should be exterminated, just the desert ones that have caused the most problems.

Answer 7

no, I don't think so. I am not atheist, I am Christian. I think its out of the same frustration we feel for you. We just think differently. We are both passionate in our beliefs and firmly believe we are right.
I can't prove to you there is a God and you can't prove to me there isn't. It doesn't happen that way.
Its all individual man. I have been taught that you will not get to Heaven based on someone else's beliefs. Ya know- like you were raised a Christian so you are. It doesn't work that way.
I think that people who don't think for themselves and have their own opinions need to be encouraged to think for themselves.
How sad is that? To not have any real thoughts of your own.
Bizarre.
Anyway- Atheists I don't understand so much> Agnostics I get. Really is it my job to convert you- nope God can handle that all on his own.
I am sure you feel the same about me- I don't know who could convert me- in that case. Like I said I don't get it.
Do your thing and I'll do mine. I just want to know why some Atheists get so angry and mean - really vicious in their comments about us Christians. Whats it to you? Whats it hurting? Don't blame us man just let us live our lives as free individuals in a free society.

Answer 8

You are spot on with this one. Christians are just a result of a convoluted, evolved religious philosophy. Someone convinced them to believe in a certain way. Some of us found a way out, but it is a terrifying road that is fraught with guilt and fear of eternal damnation. Most Christian are just doing enough to avoid burning for eternity, they choose to overlook scientific findings because it means giving up on the hope for a better future. Kind of a scary position to be in.

Answer 9

Simply to not agree with a believer too often is misconstrued as an insult by the majority of believers...what can you do?... I think it's best to just continue to disagree with them when you do and let them throw tyrannical tantrums and let them make accusations of insult till they tire themselves out.

Answer 10

I for one don't blame anyone for nothing.

I know the reasons behind their nonsensical fairy tales, but I cannot grasp yet why those in doubt are so afraid to take the first step towards enlightenment.