Atheist use science as a crutch but why?

Question

Many atheists believe the whole theory of evolution proves the non-existance of God. Just throw everything out the window because Darwin proved there is no God!!! But Why?

First off, I am Christian and I believe in evolution. (I probably shouldn't have mentioned that because I just lost half of the bias crowd right there). But seriously if I objectively look at the core belief of atheists, they believe we evolved from nothing.

So I ask, if NOTHING in science ever evolves from nothing and its proven that no infinite values exist in this universe, then I ask, how did we evolve from nothing?

So when its convenient for you, use evolution as a crutch to somehow distortedly justify the non-existance of God, but realize this...your core belief system evolves around existing from nothing.

Answer 1

I don't know what was before time.

Neither do you. You believe you know, but you do not KNOW.


Evolution disproves nothing. It simply is, and dooes not rule out the pausibility of a god. It does however debase the words in the bible as 100% word-for-word truth. But when viewed as an allegory it becomes an very important social work.

It's not terribly hard, with a thorough understanding of mathematics and chemistry to "get" the concept of life without God... however I have no answers for what created the universe, but just because I do not know doesn't mean that I feel the need to use a diety to explain things. (Like what the Native Americans, and Greeks, and Romans, and Babylonians, and Fundamentalist Christians) It makes me want to learn.

It could very well be a diety, but that seems just as likely as it being something else.

Answer 2

Very funny. I'm an atheist and I don't claim evolution proves the non-existance of God. It clearly doesn't. However, there are a lot of Christians who seem to think that for evolution to be true there could be no god, and therefore they reject evolution. Personally I think their logic is a little messed up.

Your "evolved from nothing" statement is interesting. Firstly, in case you didn't know, biological evolution does not deal with how life started. Nor does it have anything to do with the big bang, despite the claims you often see (primarily from creationists) to the contrary.

However, your argument suffers from one simple, but massive, flaw. You say we atheists use science as a crutch to explain existence. But the exact same argument can be used about religion. The only difference is that one actively seeks to discover the truth. And the other repeats its old mantras.

For this reason I have to reject your hypothesis that science is a crutch. Science is a tool for humanity to understand our universe. It is nothing more.

It seems both the atheists believing in science and the Christians (and other theists) have a "core belief system [that] evolves around existing from nothing". You can say that God created everything. We say we don't know where we come from but would like to find out.

Answer 3

In the first place I never even considered science when I became an Atheists I only considered the cruelty of religious precaution, The idiocy of their God and the honesty and love of the Atheist I had recently met. The little science I knew was tenth grade science I became Atheist when I was sixteen. Since I have carefully considered what a mess this world would be in without science just getting along on your Mambo Jumbo God. You certainly wouldn't be living the nine hundred years of your fantasy bible characters. More likely thirty or forty years unlike the realistic eighty or ninety we average now. Get off your high horse I'm not listening to your foolishness. First you insist that we couldn't have came from nothing but you insist it is OK if your God came from nothing. Just look at your logic it's the height of idiocy. I don't try to claim we came from nothing. I believe something always existed except in a different form. I believe this something was so massive it comprised all the substance of the universe. I believe it became compressed into a tiny ball by the week force of gravity an continued to pull collapse on itself until it was so compressed it couldn't sustain itself resulting in a great explosion of energy creating the universe which is still expanding today. This is only a theory but much more realistic than a fantasy God that has no explanation.

Answer 4

How can you be both a Christian and an Evolutionist?
I can see you being a Deist and an Evolutionsist. However the bible makes it clear in Genesis that God created, the heavens, earth, land and sea, plants, animals, and human beings. If you don't believe this then how can you call yourself a Christian. Either the bible is true or it isn't.


Okay we didnt come from Monkeys
Homo habilis
Homo erectus
Homo sapiens
Neanderthals
Cro-Magnons

What came before HOMO HABILIS?
Was it a monkey?
What was before the monkey?
What was before that?
And Before That?
Why is there so many gaps. All we have is a human and a monkey and no fossil evidence anywhere. Yet supposedly this is the process of billions of years, even thought the sun could not support human life at the early stages it claims. So billions of years should result in trillions of fossils.Where are they? The only evolution that occurs is small changes within the bounds of the same specie. Like a black man resulted from thousands of years in a warm climate. This is the only type of changes that do occur. Another problem is mutations, how do they increase the genetic order? Evolution also has problems with cells and DNA.
The universe is not static meaning it had a beginning. You do not have an infinelty old, infinetly large universe, so randomness could not form the fine tuning of the universe. Everything was placed by God

Answer 5

The Counter reformation against Darwinism started in the 80's. many Biologists and other scientists are beginning to debunk Evolution in that it is no longer tenable. Modern atheists have an eschewed understanding or lack thereof of Darwin. Darwin didn't ever discuss the origin of life and how life formed on the planet. No one knows this, not even the Atheist Poster child, Richard Dawkins. Inorganic matter cannot covert into organic matter. Science has tried to experiment with this for over 100 years and they have failed miserably. Their wish to prove Biological evolution leaves them dry. Darwin kew that the term 'Survival of the fittest" only illustrates how a the members of a stronger species survive over the weaker ones. This in no way validates or even explains how a species can transform into a different species. So, he came up with another postulation, "Mutation". The problem here is that mutation is always deleterious. It doesn't provide the organism any benefit. it is actually a hindrance and cripples the organism. So this whole idea of evolving, changing and progressing is stupid and incontinent.
Most atheists are bitter and sad individuals who succumb to peer pressure. Ironically this is what they accuse religious people of doing. if they were one-tenth as self-critical as they are of others they would be more scrupulous of shutting their ignorant mouths off.

Answer 6

Evolution proves evolution. Richard Dawkins may think evolution disproves God but I'm not entirely in line with that. I know the concept of a god is utterly impossible with OR without evolution.

I would never say that we evolved from nothing. We evolved from the common ancestor between us and the great apes. Evolution does NOT speculate as to the origins of life or all existence.

My "core belief system"? Explain how evolution is a "belief system". It ought to be thoroughly entertaining.

Answer 7

And fundy Christians use the New Testament as a crutch when they can't intelligently answer a question posed to them...

It's not a matter of convenience to use science to explain belief, any more than it's a matter of convenience to refer to the bible. It's what athiests have-why do they need to have God involved in their science? Your point is moot because you are saying the same thing the athiests are.

Evolution happened and is happening, it did not spring from nothing, obviously, but do we ALL have to name it God?

Answer 8

The core belief of Atheists is that there is no God. Since there is no God, evolution is the theory most viable to us. But since no one was around when the earth was created, no one really knows.

Evolution does not disprove God. The lack of a God disproves Creationism.

Answer 9

Google Theistic Evolution.

Answer 10

Science actually provides proof, mere belief does not. There is no compelling evidence that God exists, yet many choose to believe anyway, in hopes that there is something after death,Who is using a crutch?