Am I to understand that, even if Muslims are killing Muslims, it's America's fault or the fault of Zionists?

Question

Someone please explain this to me, I'm a little confused.

Some people here are saying that because America invaded Iraq, Muslims are justified in murdering other Muslims in Somalia?

Sorry, but:

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!

Wrong answer.

Someone please help Resonance.

I've given many examples in my questions tonight, but he can't see them. He actually thinks that Muslims don't kill Muslims!

(Didn't Kenya just invade Somalia to drive out Al Qa'ida from killing Somali Muslims?)

Answer 1

ooh ooh I know this one.

Here I have a quote from this book I am reading, the Israel-Arab Reader:

"Even if economic and social equilibrium is re-established, it will be to the detriment of the Arabs" (59)

I couldn't stop laughing. "Even if the situation gets better, it will still be bad for the Arabs" because Zionists are evil no matter what they do. Or something equally stupid.

Answer 2

Obviously Americans are not responsible for the choices made by other people. I am not sure where the Zionists fit here. Saddam Hussein was certainly an evil human being. Communism sucked too, but look at what happened in places like Yugoslavia and Kosovo when communism fell in those places. The difference was communism more or less fell on its own. In Iraq the USA (my beautiful country) created a mess thanks to some poor decisions made by Bush (my not so good president). Before we toppled Saddam Hussein, there were no Al-Qaeda or WMD in Iraq and the Iraqi Army had control of Iraq's borders. Now it is a magnet for anyone and everyone that hates the USA to go and kill Americans. Even worse many of these people also hate each other and now have weapons coming to them from outside the country. The USA did not create the age old antagonisms between Shiites and Sunnis but we inadvertantly created the situation where they could fight each other in Iraq while they both try to blow up our troops who never needed to be there. I served in the first Gulf War. We never occupied Iraq at that time because even though we would have had international support to do it, that Bush was a little smarter and could see that it would create anarchy and leave us stuck in Iraq. Our government has already made that horrible mistake and put our troops in an impossible situation. When they finally fully admit that and bring our troops back to the USA, the situation in Iraq will worsen because the foreign extremists in Iraq will still be there and weapons will be all over Iraq for the different factions to kill each other with. This is not my fault. This is not your fault. This not the fault of the US Armed Forces or the American people. But it is the fault of the Bush administration.

Answer 3

When Islam was in it's prime, Muslims were the most educated and progressive people in the world. For example, Muslims figured out about sterilization in surgery before anyone else--most Europeans didn't even take more than one or two baths per year at that time. Christians destroyed old books from other cultures that weren't Christian. The philosophy of the Ancient Greeks would be lost to the world, but Muslims took the trouble to preserve it in huge libraries. They also invented Algebra and developed many important ideas that influence the world to this day.

Islam very nearly conquered the world-Muslims even took over Spain and part of Italy in the middle ages.

But at some point, the progress seemed to stop. By the early 20th century, most Muslims lived in colonial rule under Europeans, especially the British. The glory of Islamic culture and influence seemed to be gone forever.

The holy land (sacred to Jews, Christians, and Muslims) had been dominated by Muslims for centuries. By the end of World War I, it belonged to the British Empire. Winston Churchill saw the wisdom of controlling the oil trade, and that's what Britain and America sought to do.

Bitterness between Jews and Muslims had already existed since the time of Muhammad (some say, since the time of Abraham). It became a huge political sore point that the British and Americans took Palestine away from it's own people to create the State Of Israel.

The average Muslim today lives in poverty without education. They look for someone to blame. Their political and religious often blame USA/UK and Israel for their problems; the poor and ignorant Muslims believe it and look for ways to get revenge.

To some degree, I think the anger is justified. In others, I think internal corruption and poor distribution of wealth (typical developing nation problems) are the real issue.

I am not a Muslim, but I have a hard time believing that anyone can be truly evil--there have to be root causes to make people bitter.

Answer 4

Success has many pretended fathers, failure is either an orphan or is mono-parental. Muslims are not killing one another, this is incorrect. It is Arabs against Arabsin Irak and they happen to be Muslims. The same happens in Darfour, Arab blacks against underdog black Africans Sudanese! Muslims must accept that; leaving religion aside for the moment, the Muslim world is limited economically , sociologically etc. almost everywhere except in Malaysia and Singapore. The Gulf States and Saudi Arabia are unrepresentative of the Muslim world because they are so rich they do not know what to do with their wealth and are a tiny minority. Every failure needs a culprit and the favourite scapegoats are the USA and Zionism, admitedly even more since the fall of the Berlin wall. The USA did make a dismal job of managing their over-bloated super power status, much to every one's disgust and sorrow. The underlying lesson in all this is, if you want to progress, educate the women first, and ***** about your fate afterwards !

Answer 5

I don't believe that Muslims killing Muslims is all America's fault, surely. But one must accept the fact the Israel was founded by us, that is, the rest of the world and that they took land that Arabs have lived on for a couple of thousand years.
So let's look at an example: Canada decides that they can claim Wisconsin and Michigan as "their land" , and they did. And they installed their own government and made the people that were US citizens second class. Would you and the rest of the US hate Canada? Would you fight Canada to remove them from these two states? And if France backed Canada with weapons and absolute support, would you hate France too? Think about that.

Answer 6

Let me aswer your question.

It is wrong in Islam to kill another muslim & it is wrong to kill inocent women & children regardless of thier religion.

http://www.submission.info/perspectives/striving/terrorism.html

As a muslim i do not agree with some of the things that have been happening in the world over the last few years.
Some people misinterperate the meaning of Jihad - the link explains what Jihad truly means.
http://www.mediamonitors.net/shaziamirza2.html

Islam is a peaceful religion , you cannot blame Islam or ts true followers for the actions of those that are extremist, If the Quran says that something is not allowed then as a muslim you should not do what God has forbidden.

Muslims killing muslims may not be America's fault, but the USA goverment has inflicted alot of pain to thousands of innocent muslim people, I am not a fan of the USA govermennt, i believe that George Bush is the master mind behind alot of uneccesary violence & evil.

What happened in Somalia is sad & completly wrong & but please remember its not the fault of Islam, it is people that do not follow whats in the Quran, you can never kill innocent people in the name of Allah (swt) - it is unislamic to do that.

I have answered your question in the best way i know how, trying to explain the truth about Islam.

Only Allah (swt) knows best.

Answer 7

It is America's fault because by going in to Iraq ( I am just assuming this is what you are talking about.) the way that we did. Eliminating Saddam the way that we did, opened up a hornet's nest. I am not saying that Saddam was not a bad leader, but the people of Iraq were obviously not ready for freedom. Now had the people of Iraq been ready to overthrow Saddam on their own, and had strong leadership that they all could agree on ready to put in place things might have gone differently. This is why you do not invade a country for the wrong reasons. You are guaranteed to have horrendous results.

As for Zionists, I am not really sure were to start.

Answer 8

There is no Muslims killing Muslims,

Qur'an says that Muslims can't kill anyone.....
These fighting people r either some mislead people wanting 2 fight thus some real Muslims had 2 defend themselves, or either both r mislead.

Believe me a real Muslim will know that Qur'an says that killing one, is like killing all humanity, means a straight way to hell..

Man i know what u r talking about, and if u read carefully u will notice that I'm actually answering ur question and YES there r no Muslims killing other Muslims.

Answer 9

To be fair, Christianity was the violent religion burning scientists and killing every other religion (pagans and Muslims) for quite some time. It was when the Muslims occupied southern Spain i believe that they spread the fantastic suggestion of not killing other religions. My friend i am a christian...but u must see things neutrally. Christians were crazy and Muslims wise, now it is changing somewhat (talking about Muslim fundamentalists). Maybe some day it will change back again...shame on everyone who kills "he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword" no distinction there between Muslim or christian.

Answer 10

its very simple!

If you study history and politics u'll know it

in short i will say if you have CIA teams specializing and in contact with Shias and Sunnis seperately.

If you destroy a government saying that it has WMDs and links with "you know who" and after causing the deaths of more than Four hundred thousand innocent civilians and then say that those reports were misinterpreted and inaccurate or in short wrong.

If Muslims give land for "Poor" "Poor" jews who escape the natzis and accept them on their own land as migrants and within twenty years they take all of your land and you have no hope (as they don't accept you as a citizen and they dont' accept your land as a state and the US backs them while they bomb civilian areas and hospitals with cluster bombs)

WHAT DO YOU THINK MORE THAN TWO BILLION PEOPLE WHO DON'T WATCH "FOX NEWS ONLY" WILL THINK.

Another point!
If you don't make them fight do you think the above mentioned population will sit still without any representation in the United Nations (An organisation that forces western values on us muslim eventhough our culture and ethics are far more historic and test proven to be better). No one in this population has a permenent seat in the organisation that stand for democracy.

How can you keep them quite ???? same theory "Divide and Rule"

Thats how!! alas i am sorry to know that so many literate people in the west are in fact so dumn or illetrate.