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Pro lifer’s have made the case that because it’s legal, it’s not wrong to do so. That's great. I think I'll go cheat on my girlfriend now. It's legal, correct? So that makes it right? you're confusing legality with morality. There are lots of things that are legal that aren't really moral. It's perfectly legal for corporate america to ship your job overseas to save money on labor, but does that make it right? It was perfectly legal for the oil industry to continue to raise oil prices while also reaping record profits, but I bet you were one of those that screamed bloody murder and claimed a lack of ethics and moral sensibility was being practiced (all the while you went and filled up at the nearest gas station). It is immoral of business owners to legally oppose the rasing of minimum wage. And yet, it's moral for you to go ahead and kill human life because the Courts said it was legal. That's an interesting contradiction. It's even more interesting that science says biological life begins during prophase, the initial stage of mitosis. But the kicker is how the pro choicers scream that the pro lifers base their definition of life on their faith. Yet, many pro lifers cite the scientific argument of mitosis, just as I have. Pro choicers say that life begins at birth. Based on what? Faith? It certainly isn't science. Look, I'm not here to argue if you do or don't have the legal right to have an abortion. The Courts have ruled that you do. What I'm saying is that you don't have the moral right to do so, just as I don't have the moral authority to cheat on my girlfriend. To believe otherwise is only placating your own state of moral unconsciousness.

2007-02-12 10:36:04 · 32 answers · asked by Dark Helmet 2 in Family & Relationships Singles & Dating

Laura, science says it is. Read up on mitosis.

2007-02-12 10:44:57 · update #1

Josh, but then what if I don't think murder is immoral? Let's make it legal, because by what you said, we can't legislate morality. Josh, the law is rife with laws legislated solely on the basis of morality. That argument doesn't add up.

2007-02-12 10:49:48 · update #2

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Bravo, but you have missed the point of everything. Moral or Immoral isn't the question. The question is whether anyone else has the right to impose their idea of morality on someone elses body. In the land of the free they don't and that is why despite its morality abortion always will be, and always should be, legal. ... Again you miss the difference between legislating morality and legislating personal freedoms. Suppose a fetus is just as human as any of us and killing it is murder. You STILL can not FORCE a woman to carry it to full term.

2007-02-12 10:41:35 · answer #1 · answered by Joshua L 2 · 2 1

I first have to say that I am 50 years old. When I was young abortions were sometimes performed in back alley clinics and the like. But the reports were that there were only 500- 1000, per year. The real truth will never be known. That being said. The promoters of Abortion argued that due to rape and incest, abortions should be made legal. They argued that women who were victims of these crimes should have a way out. There were also constant mentionings of women who could lose their lives during an abortion. Shortly after abortion was made legal, the numbers started to skyrocket. I know of girls in the late 70's and 80's that had 4-6 abortions and started using abortion as contraception. Its really easy for anyone to look at an abortion and either film or pictures and realize that its a human body being torn to pieces. You can catch things on health channels like penile implants, breast implants, sex change reconstruction, but will never see an abortion. The truth is ugly and to actually see one will stop a persons breathing for a moment. Abortion is convienent, not morally right. That little human should have rights. If someone kills a pregnant mother, they can be charged with the death of the mother and baby, but if a woman says this is not a good time for me, she can have the babies head crushed and the infants body sucked out with a vacuum and the deeds over. Keep in mind that there are an average of 5,000 aboutions each day in the USA. at $500-$600 each, and the babys body (fetal tissue they call it) can then be resold to labratories. The abortion industry is a huge money train. If in the 70's when abortion became legal anyone would have known the extent and amount of abortions to be conducted, it would never have passed. Just some facts.

2016-05-24 02:32:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Your post isn't so much a question as a rant, but I'll answer it anyway.
Yes, you're right, there is a difference between legality and morality, and what is legal isn't always right.

But remember that morality comes in many different shades, and you are forced to choose between two evils. Pro-choicers are not pro-abortion; they don't advocate abortion as an absolute good - they simply offer it as the less evil option for those who need it. They are not "morally unconcious" - they are deeply concious of the unhappy decision before them. Nobody wants to be placed in the situation of needing an abortion, no one would ever choose to have to make that choice... but once you're there, it is good to have that option, because sometimes bearing that child is the greater moral outrage.

"But the protection of a life, a child is a good thing," you might argue "how can it be a moral outrage?" Maybe sometimes - not always, but sometimes - it is both. Is it right that every day on this very site a 15-year-old girl wonders what to do about the 19-year-old boy who talked her into having sex but didn't take responsibility, and left her pregnant and afraid?
Is it right that some man slipped a roofie into his own drink, let my friend assume it was all right to have a few sips, then nudged her out the door, into his car, up to his hotel room... her only conscious memory being of him holding up a condom and interpreting her slurred refusal of sex as refusal of just the condom... that this sweet, deeply maternal woman was left pregnant by a man whose last name she never knew? Was it so wrong that an abortion left her free to heal, to spend her days helping others, to learn to love and trust again?
Is it so wrong that a married woman finds out her baby is at risk for Down syndrome, and would rather let this little soul wait to return in another body that can give the soul all the strength and advantages life has to offer?

Abortion might not be the MORAL thing to do... but it isn't always IMMORAL, either.

2007-02-12 10:58:42 · answer #3 · answered by teresathegreat 7 · 1 0

The funny thing about morals is that everyones are different. While some universal ideals of morals abound, the reality is that my morals, though very good to me, are not your morals. You may not spay your cat, which to me, is immoral. You may spank your kids, which I disagree with. You may have sex before marriage.....

I would not personally have an abortion, as I agree that it is taking a life. However, it is not up to me to judge a woman or girl who chooses to do so. If my daughter was raped and wanted an abortion, I would support her. If a friend was pregnant with a severely deformed fetus, I would support her decision to abort.

My challenge to all the prolifers: If you truly want to decrease abortion, why not spend more time, money, and energy on prevention--education and making contracetption available to all. If you must insist that women give birth, should you not be liable to care for the unwanted children who are born to them?

Finally, as a psychiatric nurse, I see too many babies born from druggie mothers. They often grow into teenagers with severe, debilitating mental illnesses. Would you like to take these little darlings in?

Lots to think about and it's not as simple as you present it. If you are a good Christian of high morals, you should not only not cheat on your girlfriend, you should not be having sex with her until you are married. I hope you are a virgin. If not, perhaps you need to heed your own advice in regards to morals.

2007-02-12 10:46:47 · answer #4 · answered by schweetums 5 · 1 0

So then you feel its OK for a baby to be born into a home (if you want to call it that) where there is no food, no father, no morals? You feel that it's OK to have taxpayers support this baby and the mother who had it (probably a few others too)? It's perfectly legal to collect welfare and live off the taxpayers, but is it right??
Yes I am PRO-CHOICE but for me having an abortion was not an option (I have 4 beautiful kids) but in some situations and circumstances let's face it ....it's the BEST choice.

2007-02-12 10:46:21 · answer #5 · answered by pamomof4 5 · 2 0

The same way that it's completely legal to judge the actions of others as "sin or not sin", but is it moral?

Moral authority? Could you have found a more arrogant phrase? Seriously kid (I'm just guessing, 15?), take a deep breath, and try to chill. I can tell that you were working yourself up by the frequency of run-on sentences and rhetorical questions toward the end of that rant. God doesn't really want us to yell at people for him, it's not his style. Accusing people of hypocracy, and placating their own states of moral unconsciousness, is a fast way to guarantee that no one will listen to you. If that was your goal, then carry on. If however, you were hoping to change someones heart or mind, you might consider that more flies are caught with honey.

2007-02-12 10:50:38 · answer #6 · answered by Beardog 7 · 1 1

Very well written! I'm in agreement with you 100%. If women were so worried about getting pregnant...they would prevent it, not kill it once it's already happened. If it happened even while preventing it, then I believe that every soul is accounted for in God's eyes. I think that it's a selfish act for people that can't live with the consequences of their choices...or out of vanity. If it wasn't a selfish act...then why not adoption? It's all about me..me..me... in our world today. People look at me strange when I say that I would never abort a child for any reason...rape or incest. I won't be responsible for the loss of life no matter what the reason. During one of my pregnancies, the doctor's wanted me to have amniocentesis done (where they remove some amniotic fluid, and test for certain abnormalities) I refused to have it done. I said the only reason to have it done would be so I could have the option of ending the pregnancy. I said that I didn't care if there was something abnormal or not. If God saw fit for this child to be born unto me, then I would be fit to care for it.

2007-02-12 10:50:59 · answer #7 · answered by sassy_395 4 · 0 1

regardless of the case, abortion will always and is always a crime.....THOU SHALL NOT KILL.... says the sixth commandment. better say, thou shall not murder. What difference does it make if you cut the head off a two week old child or aborting a fetus with a pair of forceps, or by deep frying a 1 week old baby as compared to aborting with the aid of burning chemicals....... considering that both the unborn and the unborn child were conceived through rape.......
It is not the child's fault! The baby should not suffer the punishment of the crime committed to the mother. The more should the case be if the child was conceived in mutual sex.
Imagine the punishment by God if we kill a baby....forget about the punishment, just imagine yourself as the baby being aborted or maybe a child you know and love...... Imagine the reward in heaven if a mother allows her child to live despite the betrayal the father has done to her.
We cannot put justice in our hands. the fate of anyone is not for anyone else to decide, but for God alone.

2007-02-12 10:56:53 · answer #8 · answered by beruto 2 · 0 2

whether we are a zygote, embryo, fetus, child, adolescent, adult, or elderly; human existence is a continuum from conception, and beyond death to life eternal in the Lord. Who knows when a persons soul comes to their body- NO ONE, so can can one make the decision to know and kill. ABORTION IS MURDER, how can a person kill a baby, especially their own?? Next time your outside in public and see a baby, imagine it in a little coffin, dead. This little precious thing that has no way to protect itself because that's what parents are supposed to do, and even if the parents can't, give it to another pair of parents that want it.

Even if a woman was raped, she doesn't HAVE to KEEP the rapists baby there's something called adoption where many people are waiting for a beautiful baby and you wouldn't ever have to see it again, so why punish an innocent thing for another person's wrong-doing??

It's a mystery to me, and the first sentence is what my religion teaches me, and I agree with it 100 percent.

2007-02-12 10:42:45 · answer #9 · answered by eve25 2 · 0 3

Toad,

Just as you, sir, do not have the right, the experience, nor the wisdom to stand and judge those whom you THINK are immoral.

By your own definition, aren't you being a hypocrite?

Added much later...

Your "It's Black Or White," "It's Either Right Or It's Wrong" attitude is highly conceited, and speaks volumes of your naivete. Things are only so clear cut for those who lack life experience, or those who are immature.

2007-02-12 10:40:34 · answer #10 · answered by Wolfsburgh 6 · 1 1

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