No! this is written in Scripture that the lifeless are no longer conscious of something in any respect. <<<<<< "For the residing are conscious that they are going to die; yet as for the lifeless, they're conscious of no longer something in any respect...">>>>>> This being the case, if all of us is making a stable tutor of it, they're truly contacting demons who're pretending to be a lifeless kin member or all of us else for that remember. that's quite frightening stuff which stable hearted, frequent persons would desire to stay as some distance faraway from as they'd!!! The demons will do something in an attempt to get persons to quit worshiping God. Be very careful because's no guffawing remember.
2016-09-29 00:35:52
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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Last Samhain (Halloween) at church (yes, I attend a pagan-friendly UU church every Sunday) I officiated at our Samhain ritual for the congregation, both Pagan and non-Pagan alike.
PEOPLE LOVED IT!
As part of the service, I dedicated a doorway to the dead and invited the departed to come through and visit with their loved ones during the service. I then did a guided meditation, where the entire congregation passed through the doorway and visited the Land of the Ancestors for a while.
People came up afterward and told me it was one of the most moving services we'd had at the church in years. It was a lot of work preparing for it, but it was soooooooo worth it!
Excerpts from the Samhain service...
Today we are here to honor our beloved dead. Samhain is when the veil between the worlds is thinnest, and we can call to those who have gone on before us, and they will hear us. Death is merely a door which opens to another life, and today that doorway will be opened, the threshold will be bridged.
To facilitate this, we will dedicate this doorway to the dead, so that they may come through and find us more easily, here on this side of the veil. This portal will be only temporary, for the duration of our service, and nothing may pass through that intends us any harm.
I open this doorway in the name of the Lord and Lady, so that those who wish us no harm may pass through the veil, and once again be with the loved ones that they have left behind. Join us for just a short time longer. We invite loved ones who have passed away, particularly those who have crossed over recently, to return to us today. Join us now, and be remembered.
I stand in this doorway, in a place that is not a place, and a time that is not in time. In this doorway, we are neither in the past nor the future, nor are we in our accustomed world, but are in the eternal present in the Summer Lands, the Lands of the Dead, the Realm of our Ancestors.
This time of year, the New Year, is a time for reflection. We should look behind us at the past year, and begin to assess what we have done with our year... and what we have failed to do. We should look at what we must leave behind in order to move ahead. We should look back on friends and loved ones who have gone beyond the veil and remember them.
Let us now prepare to journey to their realm.
First, relax your body. Close your eyes, and concentrate on your breath, and feel a wave of relaxation as it moves through your body from your toes until it washes over the top of your head. Breathe in, and feel the current pull up. Breathe out, and feel it running over. Breathe in, and out, until you are completely relaxed.
In this meditation, you will journey to meet an ancestor. Remember that an ancestor is a person from your past, who is no longer living, who has helped shape the person you are today. This ancestor may be a predecessor from your bloodline or a person who has given you a meaningful tradition or philosophical basis, such as an adopted relative, a teacher, or a mentor.
Now picture yourself in your mind, as your spirit, your essence, stands up and approaches the door we have dedicated to the departed. In your mind, walk through that doorway now.
You stand on a sea shore facing the setting sun. Watch the waves as they come to the shore. You notice a boat pulled up on the sand. Board the vessel now, and you will be carried over the sea to the Island of the Ancestors.
The sun has now set, and the night is clear. The waxing moon is rising over your shoulder, and you hear the gentle rolling of water past your boat.
You see an island emerging before you. The boat stops at the shore and you see a grove of apple trees. There is a moonlit path between the trees. Follow it.
Ahead is a mound. In the front of the mound is a doorway made of two immense upright stones. The door swings open. There are two torches burning that light a narrow passageway slanting down into the earth. At the far end of the passage is a faint red glow. Proceed through a corridor as it inclines downward.
You emerge into a shadowy great hall. In the center is a hearth with the glowing embers of a large fire. Seated before the fire, facing away from you, is a hooded figure. On the other side of the fire is a bench. You circle halfway around the hearth and sit facing the figure. This is your ancestor. Greet this person warmly.
You may now ask your ancestor one question. It may be about his or her contributions to your life or your family; it may be to clarify something about yourself, or about your future. Ask your question now, and your ancestor will answer.
When you have finished, your ancestor gives you a gift, a token of help and guidance. Look at it now and see what it is.
In a fair exchange, your ancestor now asks you a question. Answer as best you can.
You realize that you also have a gift for your ancestor. Look at it, and present it to your ancestor with thanks.
You stand and complete your circle around the hearth, back to behind the ancestor. You quickly pass out of the mound and walk back along the path to the shore where the boat waits for you.
Boarding the ship, you return to the far shore just as the first light of dawn is breaking over the eastern horizon, and you see the doorway leading you back to the realm of the living. You cross through the doorway, back into our realm, into the New Year. You walk back into our church, and as the doorway to the other realm closes behind you, you return to your seat.
As you settle back into your body in this realm, become aware of your breathing once again.
At your own pace, return to our circle, bringing your experiences and your ancestor’s token with you. Do not be surprised if you find that the token you received on the other side manifests itself here on a physical plane in the next few weeks.
Open your eyes, and be with us once again. Welcome back to the realm of the living!
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2007-02-12 07:02:30
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answer #10
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answered by PaganPaul 2
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