Islam doesn't even have an original Qur'an. It was made up supposedly from "memory" and a few scraps found under a bed. This was about 150 - 200 years after Muhammad died at his wife Ayish's home in Medina, and he was lowered into a hole in the ground, where he remains.
Al Bukhari, a Muslim scholar of the 9th-10th century, and the most authoritative of the Muslim tradition compilers, writes that whenever Muhammad fell into one of his unpredictable trances his revelations were written on whatever was handy at the time. The leg or thigh bones of dead animals were used, as well as palm leaves, parchments, papers, skins, mats, stones, and bark. And when there was nothing at hand the attempt was made by his disciples to memorize it as closely as possible.
Zaid b. Thabit said: “The Prophet died and the Qur’an had not been assembled into a single place.” (p. 118, Ahmad b. `Ali b. Muhammad al `Asqalani, ibn Hajar, "Fath al Bari", 13 vols, Cairo, 1939/1348, volume 9, page 9)
Zuhri reports, 'We have heard that many Qur'an passages were revealed but that those who had memorized them fell in the Yemama fighting. Those passages had not been written down, and following the deaths of those who knew them, were no longer known; nor had Abu Bakr, nor `Umar nor `Uthman as yet collected the texts of the Qur'an.
“During the battle of Yamama, 450 reciters of the Quran were killed.” (The True Guidance, An Introduction To Quranic Studies, part 4 [Light of Life - P.O. BOX 13, A-9503 Villach, Austria], p. 47- citing Ibn Kathir’s Al-Bidaya wa al-Nibaya, chapter on Battle of Yamama).
Muhammad's child wife said this after Muhammad died:
"The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
References: Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. page 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, page 626; Ibn Qutbah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) page 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. page 13
2007-02-11
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Manhatten ???? Is it hatred to question the validity of a holy book? Is it only hatred if this book is the Qu'ran or can I assume this is for all holy books?
2007-02-11
20:14:49 ·
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Adia that is ridiculous on so many levels God only protects the Qu'ran he didnt care about his oother books?
And why the offense is okay to question other holy books but not your own?
2007-02-11
20:16:47 ·
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Diggy the gospel is the Good News that good new is the defeat of sin and death...It could only be told after the victory...The reference in the Qu'ran to the gospel makes no sense saying Allah authored the good news and it is the atonment yet he denies tha crucifiction!!!!
2007-02-11
20:20:11 ·
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Of course the Bible truths passed through many hands it is the way God distributes his truth...If the bible came only from one man wouldn't we question its validity couldn't one men be a liar this is the way of the God of the Bible.....and Allah claims to be this God....I see you agree wiht me that this is impossible!!!!!!!!!!
2007-02-11
20:23:36 ·
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Muslims you base your belief that the Qu'ran is not corrupted on the Qu'ran saying it can't be crrupted? According to your allah he is the same God that brought the book of Moses the Torah the Gospel...ect...How could he allow 4000 years worth of scripture to be corrutp0ed and promise to keep the Qu'ran pure? Is God on a learning process as to how to accomplish keeping his word pure? He was fallable but now God has got it strait?
Wold nay God allow this to happen was he not capable of keepoing his truth strait doe he need Muahmmad to show him how this is dome? and by the way he is dead...so can you be sure? The bible is the holy word of God it is not corrupt t does not agree wiht the Qu'ran not because it is corrupt but because the Qu'ran is not the word of God.
2007-02-11
20:37:33 ·
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Ruch I supose corruption and contradiction is in the eye of the beholer as I have seen many contradiction the idea that the Bible is corrupt is also a contradiction as the quran say it is Guidence and Light it also calls for Muslims to say to the people of the Book we agree with the revealtion handed down to you your God is my God...then it disagrees wiht the revealtion handed down to us...I am ot to those who worship Muhammad and his book do not see this as a contradiction but any five year old would ask how can these both be true?
2007-02-11
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It is merely a book authored by man and written by man.
The Bible was authored by GOD and penned by his saints and prophets.
2007-02-11 20:13:08
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answered by Tribble Macher 6
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You have a lot of material but still you dont seem to get the message.
It is correct that the Quran was NOT written down during the time of the Prophet (PBUH).
Yet it was carefully verified with the MOST trusted men. Some part of the Quran was written down, but most of it was in the hearts of people.
This was cross-checked and made into one final copy. Now is this Quran the SAME as it was Originally???
1) Any language has an update in its vocabulary every 50-100 years. Most of the words that were used 50-100 years in English are NOT valid today.
Similarly there have been numerous new words that have been added to it.
NOW...
NOT EVEN A SINGLE WORD USED IN THE QURAN HAS BECOME OBSOLETE...
The Quran is a living language. If it was written by a human, it could have died, as many words used were sure to become dead after 50-100 years.
What about the QUran???
1427 years have passed... EACH WORD IN THE QURAN IS STILL ALIVE AND IS STILL USED BY ARABS. TIME CAN NOT DESTROY QURAN AS IT HAS BEEN SENT BY THE CREATOR.
2) The Quran has information that was discovered and PROVED by Modern Science ONLY today.
Many Scientific discoveries that were done in the past 100-200 years have been mentioned in the Quran 1427 years before.
It is well known that Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) himself was an illiterate man. How could an illiterate man produce such detailed descriptions about Embryology, Physics, Water Cycle, Creation of the Universe etc???
The Answer is simple, it is INDEED a word of GOD.
Watch these facts for yourself.
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_creation_man.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_miracles_quran.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_quran_leads_way_to_science.php
http://www.harunyahya.org/m_video_creation_universe.php
http://www.harunyahya.org/m_video_architects.php
http://www.harunyahya.org/m_video_technology_in_nature.php
http://www.harunyahya.org/m_video_biomimetics.php
http://www.harunyahya.org/m_video_artistry_color.php
2007-02-12 04:20:40
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answered by flameslivewire 3
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Yes muslims acknowledge that our holy Qur'an is always genuine and no single letter is corrupted.God stated in the holy book that Allah maintains the genuity of Al Qur'an.In the era of Muhammad pbuh there were many of his followers who learn holy Qur'an throughly by heart.They recalled it and reciting it again and again.Besides that the verses of holy Qur'an at Muhammad era were written on dates leaves,on the stones and on the bones of animal At the era of Umar bin Chattab as khalifah
the holy Qur'an was prepared in a book by collecting all of the written materials and crosschecked by a committee who can learn it by heart with the contents like today.By maintaining the presentation on the right hand its original letters in Arabic language and in the left hand its translation we can know its originality.We know it is no corruption by reading it again and again and we do not find a single contradiction..The government make an oversight board for maintaining the genuity of holy Qur'an..That is the guarantee.
2007-02-12 04:45:32
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answer #3
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answered by ? 7
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QURAN is the only WORD OF GOD in ORIGINAL/PURE FORM. Reason is clear in the verse below, that GOD promised to protect QURAN.
[15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it.
http://www.submission.org/q-t.html...
The Quranic challenge (since past 1400 years, present and future)
Here are the verses that mention the challenge;
Say, "If all the humans and all the jinns banded together
in order to produce a Quran like this, they could never
produce anything like it, no matter how much assistance
they lent one another." [17:88]
If you have any doubt regarding what we revealed to our
servant, then produce one sura/chapter like these, and call upon
your own witnesses against GOD, if you are truthful.
[2:23]
This Quran could not possibly be authored by other than
GOD. It confirms all previous messages, and provides a
fully detailed scripture. It is infallible, for it comes from
the Lord of the universe. If they say, "He fabricated it,"
say, "Then produce one sura like these, and invite
whomever you wish, other than GOD, if you are truthful."
[10:37-38]
If they say, "He fabricated (the Quran)," tell them, "Then
produce ten suras like these, fabricated, and invite
whomever you can, other than GOD, if you are truthful."
[11:13]
Do they say, "He made it all up?" Instead, they are
simply disbelievers. Let them produce a Hadith like this,
if they are truthful. [52:33-34]
Source(s):
http://www.submission.org/challenge.html...
2007-02-12 04:18:50
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answered by A2Z 4
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I don't care that the Qur'an SAYS that Allah would keep it from being corrupted. The question is, "Has it been corrupted?" There is nothing to indicate that it hasn't been...and given human nature it is almost certain to have been tampered with over the centuries. Just like the Bible.
All the "Holy" books were written by men, and all of them have had their meaning and words changed to fit the shifiting politics of history. Deal with it.
2007-02-12 04:18:31
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answer #5
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answered by Scott M 7
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One of the most common myths about the Qur’an, is that Hazrath Uthman (R.A.), the third Caliph of Islam authenticated and compiled one Qur’an, from a large set of mutually contradicting copies. The Qur’an, revered as the Word of Allah (swt) by Muslims the world over, is the same Qur’an as the one revealed to Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). It was authenticated and written under his personal supervision. We will examine the roots of the myth, which says that Uthman (R.A.) had the Qur’an authenticated.
1. Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an
Whenever the Prophet received a revelation, he would first memorise it himself and later declare the revelation and instruct his Companions who would also memorise it. The Prophet would immediately ask the scribes to write down the revelation he had received, and he would reconfirm and re-check it himself. Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was an Ummi who could not read and write. Therefore, after receiving each revelation, he would repeat it to his Companions. They would write down the revelation, and he would re-check by asking them to read what they had written. If there was any mistake, the Prophet would immediately point it out and have it corrected and re-checked. Similarly he would even re-check and authenticate the portions of the Qur’an memorised by the Companions. In this way, the complete Qur’an was written down under the personal supervision of the prophet (Pbuh).
2. Order and sequence of Qur’an divinely inspired
The complete Qur’an was revealed over a period of 23 years portion by portion, as and when it was required. The Qur’an was not compiled by the Prophet (Pbuh) in the chronological order of revelation. The order and sequence of the Qur’an too was Divinely inspired and was instructed to the Prophet (Pbuh) by Allah (swt) through Archangel Gabriel. Whenever a revelation was conveyed to his companions, the Prophet (Pbuh) would also mention in which Surah (chapter) and after which ayat (verse) this new revelation should fit.
Every Ramadan, all the portions of the Qur’an that had been revealed, including the order of the verses, were revised and reconfirmed by the Prophet (Pbuh) with Archangel Gabriel. During the last Ramadan, before the demise of the Prophet (Pbuh), the Qur’an was re-checked and reconfirmed twice.
It is therefore clearly evident that the Qur’an was compiled and authenticated by the Prophet (Pbuh) himself during his lifetime, both in the written form as well as in the memory of several of his Companions.
3. Qur’an copied on one common material
The complete Qur’an, along with the correct sequence of the verses, was present during the time of the Prophet (Pbuh). The verses however, were written on separate pieces, scrapes of leather, thin flat stones, leaflets, palm branches, shoulder blades, etc. After the demise of the Prophet (Pbuh), Abu Bakr (R.A.), the first caliph of Islam ordered that the Qur’an be copied from the various different materials on to a common material and place, which was in the shape of sheets. These were tied with strings so that nothing of the compilation was lost.
4. Usman (R.A.) made copies of the Qur’an from the original manuscript
Many Companions of the Prophet (Pbuh) used to write down the revelation of the Qur’an on their own whenever they heard it from the lips of the Prophet (Pbuh). All the verses revealed to the Prophet (pbuh) may not have been heard personally by all the Companions. There were high possibilities of different portions of the Qur’an being missed by different Companions. This gave rise to disputes among Muslims regarding the different contents of the Qur’an during the period of the third Caliph Uthman (R.A.).
Uthman (R.A.) borrowed the original manuscript of the Qur’an, which was authorised by the beloved Prophet (Pbuh), from Hafsah (may Allah be pleased with her), the Prophet’s (Pbuh) wife. Uthman (R.A.) ordered four Companions who were among the scribes who wrote the Qur’an when the Prophet (Pbuh) dictated it, led by Zaid bin Thabit (R.A.) to rewrite the script in several perfect copies. These were sent by Uthman (R.A.) to the main centres of Muslims.
There were other personal collections of the portions of the Qur’an that people had with them. These might have been incomplete and with mistakes. Uthman (R.A.) only appealed to the people to destroy all these copies, which did not match the original manuscript of the Qur’an in order to preserve the original text of the Qur’an. Two such copies of the copied text of the original Qur’an authenticated by the Prophet are present to this day, one at the museum in Tashkent in erstwhile Soviet Union and the other at the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey.
5. Diacritical marks were added for non-Arabs
The original manuscript of the Qur’an does not have the signs indicating the vowels in Arabic script. These vowels are known as tashkil, zabar, zair, paish in Urdu and as fatah, damma and qasra in Arabic. The Arabs did not require the vowel signs and diacritical marks for correct pronunciation of the Qur’an since it was their mother tongue. For Muslims of non-Arab origin, however, it was difficult to recite the Qur’an correctly without the vowels. These marks were introduced into the Qur’anic script during the time of the fifth ‘Umayyad’ Caliph, Malik-ar-Marwan (66-86 Hijri/685-705 C.E.) and during the governorship of Al-Hajaj in Iraq.
Some people argue that the present copy of the Qur’an that we have along with the vowels and the diacritical marks is not the same original Qur’an that was present at the Prophet’s time. But they fail to realise that the word ‘Qur’an’ means a recitation. Therefore, the preservation of the recitation of the Qur’an is important, irrespective of whether the script is different or whether it contains vowels. If the pronunciation and the Arabic is the same, naturally, the meaning remains the same too.
6. Allah Himself has promised to guard the Qur’an
Allah has promised in the Qur’an: “We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption).” [Al-Qur’an 15:9]
2007-02-12 04:31:05
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answered by By Any Means Necessary 5
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How do you think the Bible reached its current content? Many hands have written the Bible. The Qu'ran is no more or less than the Bible. They are both fairy tales. The TRUE GOD exists.
2007-02-12 04:13:23
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answered by Jason D 3
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Pick up a book of Quraan and then compare it with one printed a hundred years, 500 years or 1000 years ago book.
You will find no difference.
Pick up a book of Bible and then compare it with one printed the same day at the press nearby.
You will find atleast 100 differences.
Lakum Deenukum, wa Lia Din (You follow your religion, I will follow mine)
2007-02-12 04:29:19
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answered by Anonymous
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One of the most common myths about the Qur’an, is that Usman (r.a.), the third Caliph of Islam authenticated and compiled one Qur’an, from a large set of mutually contradicting copies. The Qur’an, revered as the Word of Allah (swt) by Muslims the world over, is the same Qur’an as the one revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It was authenticated and written under his personal supervision. We will examine the roots of the myth which says that Usman (r.a.) had the Qur’an authenticated.
1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an
Whenever the Prophet received a revelation, he would first memorize it himself and later declare the revelation and instruct his Companions (R.A. – Radhi Allahu Taala Anhu) – May Allah be pleased with him who would also memorize it. The Prophet would immediately ask the scribes to write down the revelation he had received, and he would reconfirm and recheck it himself. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was an Ummi who could not read and write. Therefore, after receiving each revelation, he would repeat it to his Companions. They would write down the revelation, and he would recheck by asking them to read what they had written. If there was any mistake, the Prophet would immediately point it out and have it corrected and rechecked. Similarly he would even recheck and authenticate the portions of the Qur’an memorized by the Companions. In this way, the complete Qur’an was written down under the personal supervision of the prophet (pbuh).
2. Order and sequence of Qur’an divinely inspired
The complete Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years portion by portion, as and when it was required. The Qur’an was not compiled by the Prophet in the chronological order of revelation. The order and sequence of the Qur’an too was Divinely inspired and was instructed to the Prophet by Allah (swt) through archangel Jibraeel. Whenever a revelation was conveyed to his companions, the Prophet would also mention in which surah (chapter) and after which ayat (verse) this new revelation should fit.
Every Ramadhaan all the portions of the Qur’an that had been revealed, including the order of the verses, were revised and reconfirmed by the Prophet with archangel Jibraeel. During the last Ramadhaan, before the demise of the Prophet, the Qur’an was rechecked and reconfirmed twice.
It is therefore clearly evident that the Qur’an was compiled and authenticated by the Prophet himself during his lifetime, both in the written form as well as in the memory of several of his Companions.
3. Qur’an copied on one common material
The complete Qur’an, along with the correct sequence of the verses, was present during the time of the Prophet (pbuh). The verses however, were written on separate pieces, scrapes of leather, thin flat stones, leaflets, palm branches, shoulder blades, etc. After the demise of the prophet, Abu Bakr (r.a.), the first caliph of Islam ordered that the Qur’an be copied from the various different materials on to a common material and place, which was in the shape of sheets. These were tied with strings so that nothing of the compilation was lost.
4. Usman (r.a.) made copies of the Qur’an from the original manuscript
Many Companions of the Prophet used to write down the revelation of the Qur’an on their own whenever they heard it from the lips of the Prophet. However what they wrote was not personally verified by the Prophet and thus could contain mistakes. All the verses revealed to the Prophet may not have been heard personally by all the Companions. There were high possibilities of different portions of the Qur’an being missed by different Companions. This gave rise to disputes among Muslims regarding the different contents of the Qur’an during the period of the third Caliph Usman (r.a.).
Usman (r.a.) borrowed the original manuscript of the Qur’an, which was authorized by the beloved Prophet (pbuh), from Hafsha (may Allah be pleased with her), the Prophet’s wife. Usman (r.a.) ordered four Companions who were among the scribes who wrote the Qur’an when the Prophet dictated it, led by Zaid bin Thabit (r.a.) to rewrite the script in several perfect copies. These were sent by Usman (r.a.) to the main centres of Muslims.
There were other personal collections of the portions of the Qur’an that people had with them. These might have been incomplete and with mistakes. Usman (r.a.) only appealed to the people to destroy all these copies which did not match the original manuscript of the Qur’an in order to preserve the original text of the Qur’an. Two such copies of the copied text of the original Qur’an authenticated by the Prophet are present to this day, one at the museum in Tashkent in erstwhile Soviet Union and the other at the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey.
5. Diacritical marks were added for non-Arabs
The original manuscript of the Qur’an does not have the signs indicating the vowels in Arabic script. These vowels are known as tashkil, zabar, zair, paish in Urdu and as fatah, damma and qasra in Arabic. The Arabs did not require the vowel signs and diacritical marks for correct pronunciation of the Qur’an since it was their mother tongue. For Muslims of non-Arab origin, however, it was difficult to recite the Qur’an correctly without the vowels. These marks were introduced into the Quranic script during the time of the fifth ‘Umayyad’ Caliph, Malik-ar-Marwan (66-86 Hijri/685-705 C.E.) and during the governorship of Al-Hajaj in Iraq.
Some people argue that the present copy of the Qur’an that we have along with the vowels and the diacritical marks is not the same original Qur’an that was present at the Prophet’s time. But they fail to realize that the word ‘Qur’an’ means a recitation. Therefore, the preservation of the recitation of the Qur’an is important, irrespective of whether the script is different or whether it contains vowels. If the pronunciation and the Arabic is the same, naturally, the meaning remains the same too.
6. Allah Himself has promised to guard the Qur’an
Allah has promised in the Qur’an :
"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption)."
[Al-Qur’an 15:9]
2007-02-12 04:19:21
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answered by PeaceKeeper 2
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because there is a statement in quran, that god mention in it that we , safe quran.
but in my opinion as a muslim, we dont have real verstion of quran. if u go and read some histroy books, u will see that IMAM ALI went to Masjed, when he had a real version of quran. and some groups in there try to firgh with him and told him that go our of Mesjed( holy place) and take ur quran with urself.
the version of quran in our hand, is changed, we even dont know which surrah come down faster than another one.
if we had complete version of quran now we muslim werent aport and lots of differents opinion about it.
2007-02-12 04:24:12
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answered by Pretty Girl 4
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Yes, and Christianity didn't start until many decades after Jesus died and Jesus never wrote a dang thing that anyone can find. So what is your point?
2007-02-12 04:12:54
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