Can freewill exist without good & evil both existing?

Question

The idea that there is no evil in Heaven seems to remove the existance of freewill. After all if you can not choose to hate how can you choose to love? If you have no other choice how can it be said that you have a choice.

If there is no choice in heaven then is heaven just another type of hell? With a different type of torture.

Answer 1

I don't think so because if it were not for the choice where would the free will be. May God Bless U.

Answer 2

I reckon that good could only be identified as good if there was something else to compare it to. Light cannot exist without darkness and darkness doesn't exist without a bit of light. Hmm, a bit of a conundrum there. It can't be freewill if there isn't even a choice to make. Therefore, if god can allow humans to not be tempted by evil in Heaven, then why did he allow it to exist on Earth? Hmm, is he even capable of keeping it at bay? Maybe why all the believers are still waiting for his return, more than 2000 years on ...

Answer 3

Dear Iblis,

In response to your question whether a person goes to Heaven or hell is based upon a decision they make with their freewill. Heaven and Hell is where people spend eternity based on their free choice to accept or deny God. God's promise when people put their faith in Him is that He is with them-- Heaven is indeed a Holy place- because God is a Holy God and so in Heaven there will be all the freedom to enjoy Him.

In our minds we think that free-choice is as good as it gets. Heaven is not a "torturous hell" that's boring. It's a place of joy because people are in the presence of God and they don't struggle with temptations and struggles that often weigh them down in this life. Hell in the Bible is a place of weeping and gnashing (and part of that is because there is a knowledge that God's love is real and people spend an eternity with the realization that they could have loved God and chose not to- and they spend an eternity tortured by that.

Wow- it's a rather large topic to cover in a short space- so i hope that this makes sense and helps. Feel free to email.

Kindly,

Nickster

Answer 4

Good and evil will always exist in the lower planes.Where duality exists, there must be balance. There are many levels of existence above the physical plane where duality continues to exist , as there are many levels of "heaven" ... Free will is a characteristic of soul but by the time the soul reaches the pure positive worlds, their will is in tune with God's will and all that exists is LOVE.

Answer 5

Free will does not imply a choice between good and evil specifically, but a choice of any kind. Free will could be nothing more than choosing the color of your bedroom walls.
Free will is a 'positive property,' and is an essential attribute of mankind. Evil is not a positive property, and is only temporary.

Answer 6

One might be exalted to such a degree of saintliness that love and compassion become second nature. Its the "You know that,you know."
principle.ok this is a primitive example ...If chocolate cake is my favorite cake. I wouldn't be
offended if others thought it was bad. I might pursue their reasons. I couldn't help wondering if the cake they had tasted was incorrectly executed.Ingredients or baking time. I would offer to share my cake. If they still disagree ,more for me. There is no found without lost! No up,
without down.It feels pretty good to be a 'horizontal' thinker.Flipping up and down at life's changes,makes it 'hellish' for anybody.Like 'This
ain't Pms,it's who ya really are! Instead ,if your
life is a gift .Relationships are tutorials to learn
about Cherishing each other.Encounters with souls' facing tragedies,fear,bitterness,are the best way to develop compassion. Love goes a long way...If we do not find compassion for someone,where they are.We will arrive at the very same circumstance. Torture is one way to perceive this. There is no such thing as a one ended stick.

Answer 7

There is no spoon. Just kidding. The whole concept is that even though you are choosing, why did you make that choice. There are always all kinds of influences in making choices, but does that mean those influence chose for you? No, we consider the influences and decide. But who's to say that you chose freely, and your choice hasn't actually already been known by a "higher being." Even so, you were still the one who made the choice.

Answer 8

if you act because you believe in politics or religion I feel sorry for you ... your free will is a joke ... thousands of people die for freedom but that is nothing if you ask a seasoned soldier. nothing to die for ! if knowledge was prevalent and over ignorance you would understand that good is the only choice one needs and free will is one sided in the light of intelligence but the job of religion and politics is to obscure the truth and confuse the people's minds think a little and I'm sure you are capable of figuring it out .what choices does anyone have that matters to kill or not, to be evil or not where is the choice to an honest man of character or the person with a good heart why are people so confounded by religious and political manipulation ???????????

Answer 9

I believe evil is the necessary counterpart of good in mankind. I believe we are all created with the ability to choose, and the free will to do so. This implies that it is possible to choose evil. As we are said to be created in the image of God, perhaps even God COULD do something evil - but as God is (presumably) infallible, God never makes that choice; the rest of us have a tougher time :-)

Answer 10

If you give it some thought, you may find that it is fallacious to assert that evil "exists," any more than cold "exists"; evil is simply an absence of good. Either of which is irrelevant to free will; if one day I drink Pepsi and another day I drink Sprite, is one choice more moral than the other?

Answer 11

I don't know who told you that evil can never exist in Heaven, but they were misleading you. Satan rebelled before the earth's creation, and that pretty much means that evil had to have existed there, and if it happened once, it can certainly happen again.