Do atheists or evolutionists believe in any sense of honor, fidelity,purity,sacred,standard of morality?

Question

I mean what is immoral for an animal with no God, beside the contradictory idea that killing is wrong since that is one of the pillars of evolution. It seems that I always hear atheists, and evolutionists saying we don't kill anybody as though that is the only moral principle they follow, in other words it is ok if you do anything else, as long as you don't kill anybody.
Isn't that the lowest common denominator of morality?
And what is the obsession with "meaningless" death, what do rights mean to a person who is dead? Rights matter to the living only, and death is not anything bad or abnormal to you right so what is the big deal?
Where do we observe rights in nature? Isn't the idea of rights closley allied to that of religion? It is a rational concept just like a deity or first cause.It is just written by old men who have died already, isn't that your powerful argument against religion?
If you say we still find it useful and necessary,I say most humans stil find religion useful.

the first part of the question that is missing
is," standard of morality"

Do not all ethics and morality revolve around pure selfishness" the selfich gene".
Is the reason you like this idea perhaps because you are very selfish and wish to dominate others so you like a philosophy that makes you believe that?

Why don't you just answer the question instead of answer some ridiculous idea in your mind which has nothing to do with what I asked.

Eldad that has some interesting insights to it but I think with just a little tim eI could easily refute those objections, which in my opinion are very superficial

Answer 1

Atheists, agnostics, free-thinkers, people who accept evolution, and others who work on ethical dilemmas can turn to reason to discover the core of ethical guidelines. They lie in the need for human beings to function in families and communities. Anything that interferes with those relationships are ethically suspect.

For that reason it is reasonable for people not to kill one another, not to steal from one another, not to lie to one another, and to keep ones promises.

Questions beyond these are culturally bound, and it is within the dialogue that the culture can decide how to best function. Some cultures consider it ethically important to allow free speech. Personally, I agree. However, this is not included in any revealed morality. It has been arrived at through reason, and to my mind has just as much validity as any revealed morality... perhaps more.

And as for your question about honor, fidelity, purity, sacred, etc., I honor my fellow humans, I am faithful to my community, I don't know the meaning of your purity, I don't consider anything sacred, and I've already described the standards for judging ethics: reason.

Answer 2

An atheist can share the exact same morals as any Christian; the atheist simply toesn't rely on the fear factor (religion) to BE a moral person. Some thinking people actually have a *gasp* sense of right and wrong without being TOLD to think that way!

So why do YOU need the supernatural in order for YOU to behave?

Incidentally, I've also known quite IMMORAL ~Christians~! Atheists and Christians alike will both have moral and immoral subscribers, which says more about the individual person than the source of moral behavior.

Answer 3

for starters most of the people that don't believe in god still follow rules and laws for the simple fact that they still know right from wrong. And most of them have their own standards and morals based on what they feel is right or wrong. <= didn't think of that now did you.
second when is the last time you heard of an Atheist starting a war. probably not for a while. When is the last time you heard of some religious nut starting a war, um ain't that kinda like the Iraq war going on right now. where are your morals. your religion sits there killing people that go against them all through out history. for instance the crusades, witch hunts, wars with other factions of the same religion.
Before you start toting the idea of morals and morality take a look at the history of your religion and think. Not everyone is going to be fodder for the cannon's and sheep for a Fake savior.

Answer 4

Well, we do get our morality from evolution, not thru some deity or what is written in a book. It was important in the development of our species to take care one another. Simple survival of the fittest, the more a species reproduce, the better the chance there is for survival. Plus, our intellect and our figuring out how the world works was very beneficial. By using the bible or any other text, you are seeing the world thru the eyes of the writer. And in the case of the bible, you always believe in what the writer believes. When it's clear that we know more about the world today than anyone who lived 2,000 years ago. Nature is still about survival but I see as humans, all of us, as surviving. So it seems illogical for us to kill each other anymore. To honor the beauty of life for all life.

Religion has served it's purpose, now it's time to move beyond the limitations of religion.

Answer 5

No, we just expect that by saying we don't kill anyone you will have the brains to figure out that we are also good then where other things are concerned as well. Sorry for assuming.

The rest is boring me too much to really read...please decide on A topic before posting, or better yet use the search to find your answers, because these things have been asked a million times and we are tired of answering them.

Answer 6

Morality did not develop from religion. Morality should come from the social values, ties, and traditions we develop throughout our lifetimes, not from fear of punishment, or hope of reward, that is not morality.

In regards to the prison population ratio, it would suggest that religious people need help with morality. I for one, live my life for helping other people, because I've been to rock bottom, and the more people I can help out of that whole, whether it be poverty, clinical depression, or other boundary, the more alive I feel.

Answer 7

I know that I, as an agnostic/atheist, have no morality or sense of right and wrong. I usually try to rape at least 6 virgins a night, steal a manger scene, and mug 4 old women. It just isn't a complete evening if I also don't sacrifice a young believer to my non-God.

You have us pegges!!! Logic wins again!!!

Answer 8

No, you don't hear anyone saying that. What they were ACTUALLY saying is that you don't HURT anybody. This is the only chance we get at live, so taking that chance away from someone is the ultimate wrong. Yes, evolution requires death to keep going, but we dont' have to hurry it along - everyone is going to die at some point. Just because we accept evolution doesn't mean we're pushing it forward. You appear very confused.

Answer 9

We observe rights in nature in the two fundamental social instincts we evolved with -- empathy and altruism.

If you need your sky-daddy to believe in doing the right thing, help yourself. As for me, I'll do the right thing simply because it's right.

And the concept of a deity is not rational.

Answer 10

The ones who find it useful are those like you who do not put in the hard work necessary to find out the answers to the questions you pose.

I have yet to meet a Christian with 'better' morals than the atheists I know.

And if you actually got past the title you would find out why we are not selfish.