He's been in for 3 weeks and hates it. He wants out. I say all he has to do is wink at the DI and he's gone. Am I correct?
2007-02-11 07:34:39 · 33 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government ➔ Military
the boy signed up for the army. tell him to suck it up and ride through the rest of his contract. and the answer is no. it's not that simple anymore. i know people who went to bootcamp and absolutely hated it there so they try and act gay to get out. they will drag you into a room and make you prove it. or at least that's how it is w/ the marine corps. lol. he'll be dishonorablly discharged though. doesn't look too good.
2007-02-11 07:40:57 · answer #1 · answered by LuvingMBLAQ 3 · 9⤊ 2⤋
He signed the papers and took the oath he is theirs until his contract is up. Pretending he is gay could do it but they will have a record of it for posterity. Another way to get out would be to go to Iraq and come back in a bag. He may wink and the DI but those guys aren't as stupid as you think they are. He will know what is happening and then your friend's son will really get the DI treatment. Military service can be good for helping a person not be a wuss and to learn respect.
Why doesn't the boy like the military? Are they tough on him? Is it that he can't do as he pleases? Is it that they won't let him dis anyone? Is he a coward? Three weeks is hardly enough time to judge the military. Once he gets out of basic training he will find that things are not going to be too bad. If he does what he is told and learns what he can he'll come out wiser and probably a better man than he was when he went in.
2007-02-11 07:45:37 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 1⤋
He doesn't hate the Army he hates basic training. The fastest way to get through basic training and out of the Army is finishing his time in service. Everybody hates basic and feels like they made a big mistake. I knew a bunch of guys who tried to get hurt or pull the "gay card" and all it does is force them into staying in basic training longer. None of them actually got out on a leg break or an ***-grab. The drill sergeants have seen it all before and if he tries to pull some crap and get out he is going to sit in basic training for 6 months to a year while they do his discharge paperwork (his less than honorable discharge paperwork). The best he can do at this point is get through basic and his AIT and then try to con his chain of command at his unit to let him go. They have more flexibility and more of an ability to discharge him than the basic training people. Besides, 9 weeks of basic is a hell of a lot better than sitting in basic training for six months because he pulled some crap. Pulling the gay card is hard to do, because the Army sees it everyday and you have to show proof. I doubt he has any proof of himself being a queer, such as pictures of him in a naked dogpile with a bunch of other guys or a bunch of guys who will testify to sleeping with him under oath!!
The Army is not that bad but the training is. Everyone in basic feels like they made a huge mistake and this is where he gets to grow up and realize you can't always run away when things get rough.
The quickest way through it is with the graduation ceremony.
2007-02-11 09:47:53 · answer #3 · answered by SL 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, first of all, your friend's son, should have known better than to join in the first place. But now that he's in, he's in hot water. Yes, if he violates the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy he probably will get out, but he will have to prove himself, some way or another. But also keep in mind that the military is desperate for troops and will not let him out easily. If he doesn't mind being dishonorably discharged, then he only has to do some minor infraction, but he will probably have to be court martialed. I would strongly advise against any of this. He might as well make the best of things, because the outlook is not good.
2007-02-11 07:46:46 · answer #4 · answered by lvms90 1 · 6⤊ 1⤋
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but unfortunately your friends son is stuck I'm afraid until he goes through his basic training which is probably another 3 weeks of torture.The only way that he's getting out of the Army is through what they call an Article 15 which is not the best thing to have on your record.It's not easy now to get out of the military like it use to be. Before, you could possibly get a medical discharge such as, if you had flat feet. Not any more. Before you could get out for being too Fat but now they have weight programs to help you lose that fat, so this doesn't work anylonger.Then if they caught you with illegal drugs using or selling they would give you an Article 15 but not anylonger. Now they have rehabilitation clinics and programs to help you solve that particular problem so you see it's not easy to get out like you use too.The ONLY way that I can see your friends son getting out really quick would be an Article 15 to where he would have to either physically hit his Drill sergent or spit on him or something more serious than that but I would NOT recommend neither one since this would go on his permanent record for one and number two he could possibly get military prison time which he really doesn't want at all! I would advise your friend that their son just needs to stick it out. Basic training is the worst part of being in the military. Once he gets through that he's basically got it made and it will be alot better to where he just might like it.I wish him all the luck!
2007-02-11 08:33:24 · answer #5 · answered by shuggabhugga05 4 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Ask him why he signed up in the first place with all the insanity going on?? I say you make your bed, you lay in it. If he willingly signed up then he should continue his service with the army. If he is still in basic training, I would say try to talk to the DI, and explain to him that he is obviously too scared and won't be able to handle it, and won't be able to serve the country to his ability. Winking at the DI isn't going to do him any good, he will just be made fun of and probably given a bunch of push ups. Playing the "gay " card won't do much for you these days. So many people who decide they don't want to be in the army, for whatever reason, decide that they will pretend to be gay to just get out, but they've caught on by now. I can't understand anyone that would enroll in the army at this stage of the game, and not understand the conequences. One thing is your drafted, but if you willingly go and sign up, you should just bite the bullet.
2007-02-11 07:46:29 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 2⤋
Basic training is DESIGNED to be hell their is no rainbow lollipop forests involved in it what so ever It is a large scale game that they are playing with his mind. Military is NOT basic training basic training is to weed out the people that can not hack it if he can just suck it up for 5 more weeks he will be fine. If he decides to quit than he more or less ruined his entire life because a dishonorable discharge would barely land you a job as a fry boy for mc donalds. Like I said though Basic training is a game... tell him to play it let his time go by an get on with his military career. One key term BASIC millions of people have gone through it, it is not overcomable an he WILL be fine.
2007-02-11 08:13:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
No you are not correct. Of course he hates it, it is basic training, you should show him more support. Tell him that he can do it, and that basic training is not forever, and it will be over soon enough. Basically, let him be man. He will like it soon after basic, he will be a better person. Your son will be a soldier. Hope he stays in, hope you help him. You do not want him out on an dishonorable discharge, it will affect his future opportunities. It is hard to be an Army parent, it takes alot. Thank you, you are important in his success.
2007-02-11 07:43:13 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 6⤊ 2⤋
He isnt even in the army yet how can he hate it. Basic Training is to easy. Its not that easy to get out. Maybe if he were crazy or something. winking at the drill sergeant wont do it though. that will just get him smoked.
2007-02-11 07:48:34 · answer #9 · answered by alanis 3 · 3⤊ 2⤋
He can't....
Employers are now looking at military records and if he puts anything other than honorably discharged he might not get the job. He signed the contract and maybe he should have thought harder about it, but he signed it, he is over 18 and he is going to have to deal with it for the next 4 years. It is only 4 YEARS.
2007-02-11 07:52:46 · answer #10 · answered by Hawaiisweetie 3 · 5⤊ 2⤋