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you are walking home one day and a young boy comes up to you and challenges you to try and get past him and you do so

then he makes a grab for you and you automatically push his hands away, he remembers seeing you walking home sometimes in your gi or whatever and starts trying to wind you up

what would you do?

I will tell you that it actually happened and the boy in front of me was 11 - 12 I walked right past him and ignored him but I know one day he will cause me problems but I choose not to take his challenges cause as our kancho taught us

"a true karate ka will always try to walk away from a fight not cause he is afraid but cause it isnt going to prove anything"

2007-02-11 05:28:41 · 31 answers · asked by cavatina_2005 2 in Sports Martial Arts

Guys I rarely wear my Gi out in public and the days the boy approaches me I wasnt wearing my Gi.

Also

My sensei and our kancho have always taught us to walk away.

I have tried to get this kid and his friends into my class some of them came but they didnt like being told what to do so they backed out.

If I wear my belt in public....i have to be crazy its only inviting trouble.

sure I talk about karate when I am at someones house etc but out on the streets I avoid even mentioning what belt I am.

If I lay a finger on this kid I could end up in jail!.

2007-02-11 19:10:17 · update #1

i can if im an adult ... if i harm this kid i could get sued

plus

you know.... if someone challenged me and i said what belt i was... itd make it worse wouldnt it.

2007-02-12 07:55:47 · update #2

31 answers

Your instructor is wise. The best fight is the 1 you DIDN'T have. If this boy is younger & smaller than you, you will be held accountable for any injuries you inflict. if he attempts to stroke or grab you, block with enough force to cause discomfort. That should stop him.

2007-02-11 05:34:21 · answer #1 · answered by yupchagee 7 · 17 1

I would say that you are asking for something to happen by wearing your gi outside the dojo. Unless someone is a close friend, or your living is made in the martial arts, or you are on TV, no one should know anything about your abilities.
Secondly, there is only 1 reason that someone would try to 'punk' you in the first place, because they feel they can. Whether or not 'they' have the skills to follow through with it is another story. The would-be assailant should not know what they are getting themselves into until it's too late.

2007-02-11 09:16:31 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In this case, first talk to the parents, if that does no good, talk to the police.

The general rule is:

1. You walk away. If you can't then you

2. Run away. If you can't they you

3. Call for assistance. If none comes then you

4. Use your martial art.

If you use your martial art; you use as little as possible and you only use it to defend yourself, not to inflict unnecessary injury or pain on your opponent.

25 years ago my sensei had another step between #3 & 4 which was:
"Find a weapon for yourself."

These days I'm not sure whether that is such a good idea since your opponant may be carrying a concealed weapon!

2007-02-11 05:46:48 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

pitty you don't study aikido as I do. The joint locks we study can be used very effectively as a deterrant without causing any harm. How unpleasant it may be, sometimes you have to make people feel that you're not fooling or they just won't get the point. A great trick you can always use is the following. If he comes at you come in as if you were to give a yo dan tsuki but instead of striking with your fist just place your open hand on his face. or even better make the hand move straight up from your hip(this way the hand seems to come out of nowhere.) believe me that this technique is enough to make any adversary think twice without bodily harm. in addition you can use your second hand to the lower back. If you move the head backward and the back forward you will unbalance the subject and will be able to bring him to the floor quite easily.

2007-02-12 19:49:45 · answer #4 · answered by peter gunn 7 · 0 0

this person sounds like someone that wont stop pushing until he gets the finght he wasnt, even if it means attacking you either directly, or from ambush. While you many not have a need to prove anything, you do have a need to protect yourself from harm. That is a distinction that many karateka fail to make. My Shidoshi taught that anyone that attacks you is trying to take your life, treat every opponont as real and serious. Walking away from a pointless fight is one thing, walking away form someone that will put a knife in your back is something else enitrely. When this person bothers you again, leave him with the understanding that IF he pushes things too far...he will NOT be happy with the results.

2007-02-11 13:05:54 · answer #5 · answered by hakuno_kai 2 · 1 0

This isn't really a problem for martial arts, but for your parents and/or teacher, especially if it has happened more than once.
You didn't say how old you were, but I would guess you're the same age.
This other kid is a bully, and should be dealt with by your parents or the school authorities, NOT by you alone! If you find yourself in a situation you can't get out of without physical force, I'm not saying not to fight back, but this should be the ABSOLUTE last resort, as neither of you is really prepared for the possibility of injury, which could be sever, in more ways than just the resulting pain.

2007-02-11 05:46:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

a fight is between willing participants,self defence is when some attacks you.if someone tries to attack you that's how you deal with it,as an attack.an attacker has no sex age or anything else there just an attacker and should be dealt with in the appropriate way according to the situation. a 12 year old boy or 50 year old woman can stab you just as dead as anyone else.you've already taken the first step in self defence,awareness of the situation.the next step is avoidance,walk on the other side of the street.you made a very big mistake by walking past him and having your back to him.

2007-02-11 08:12:56 · answer #7 · answered by BUSHIDO 7 · 1 0

We are taught, never first strike, but if you need to defend you also need to stop any second attack, one swift strike and get out of the fight, you dont want to run away becouse it will only make the boy pick on you even more, but if you give him a taste of what you can do then walk away he may not want a second helping.
It is always best to avoid any fight though, I train with my daughter and tell her that the best way to win a fight is never to have one, always avoid the situation. Walk home a different way, walk with some of your class friends, get changed so you dont stand out, anything to reduce the chance of it happening.

2007-02-12 00:56:55 · answer #8 · answered by gmans_shadow 2 · 0 0

This May Help

1) Change before leaving your school or slip a sweat shirt
and sweat pants over your uniform before leaving.
2) His parents are the cause of this behavior,if possible have yours speak to his.
3) If this happens again have your parents speak to the police.
4) Following ninedemons advise will certainly mean appearing in court.
(Breaking the bones of someone because they walked within
an "arms Length" of you is not "Defense" it's "Offense")
5) Always remember the creed

I come to you with only Karate; "empty hands." I Have no weapons, but should I be forced to defend myself,
my principles or my honor. Should it be a matter of
life or death, right or wrong, then here are my weapons,
Karate; "empty hands."

Mr. Edmund K. Parker

2007-02-12 09:04:28 · answer #9 · answered by ? 6 · 1 0

to ignore it was good, but if this happens again and again, he will always do it, so it may come to the time when you have to exert your superiority. sounds like he is a stalker in the making, so it may be up to you to nip his future criminal behaviour in the bud. tell an adult

you should also NEVER walk outside of your training with your Gi on. I dont think your instructor is that wise, as to ignore the talk about wearing your gi (or any martial arts associated clothing) outside on the street. this is the first lesson for you: you cant be a wolf among sheep if you look like one. you need to blend in until it no longer helps you. NO ONE else here noticed this? sad.

so stop wearing your gi to and from training.

I tell my son that the quickest way to get into trouble is to look like you want it. and dumb @ss mofo's see your suit as a challenge. STOP WEARING IT! opposites attract, and the like a magnet, your gi will attract all the wrong interest.

2007-02-11 06:19:24 · answer #10 · answered by SAINT G 5 · 4 0

dont what ever you do try any martial arts on him you will bring a whole heap of trouble on yourself if the little **** gets so much as a scratch. he is probobly just be trying to wind you up in which case just ignore. if you are concerned that there is something more sinister going on here report it to the police you never know you might not be the only victim. I used to do karate years ago and I found that it was unwise to advertise what you do as sadly the world is full of assholes . Change back at the dojo

2007-02-11 05:57:24 · answer #11 · answered by P H 2 · 1 0

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