2007-02-10 20:52:51 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If Jesus DID do any sort of miracles, they were empowered by Satan, NOT GOD, because Jesus was a liar and fraud, a false prophet. Why do Christians and Muslims not understand that HaMosiach has not yet come?
2007-02-10 20:54:33 · update #1
Jesus could not have been HaMosiach.
If you look at Joseph's geneology, it includes Jeconiah (Matt 1:11) who was cursed by God that he'd never be the ancestor of a Messiah (an annointed king of Israel) [Jeremiah 22:30; 36:30]
Mary's geneology passes through Nathan, not Solomon. HaMosiach must descend from David through Solomon. [II Sam 7:14, I Chron 17:11-14, 22:9-10, 28:4-6, Luke 3:31].
Neither Mary nor Joseph were eligable to be parents to HaMosiach, or ANY of the Messiahs, for that matter.
2007-02-10 21:02:54 · update #2
Pennoas:
Jesus & Satan decide to lead people away from the one eternal covenant. So Satan has a bunch of demons posess people. Jesus goes up to the people and says, "Go home boys," so they leave. He then says, "Hey, ain't I something." The Pharisees say, "No, you're the devil." He says, "A house divided cannot stand." Which is the truth... spoken to help a lie.
If Jesus, Satan, and the demons were working together, the house would not be divided.
2007-02-10 21:04:51 · update #3
By the way, I'm actually an atheist. But if Jesus is supposed to be the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy, maybe you should compare him to the Jewish prophecies... which he fails miserably.
http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/web/faq/general-messiah-jewishresponse.html
2007-02-10 21:05:37 · update #4
rdappa: Actually, I was a Convicted, Saved, and Born-Again Christian for many years, including years spent in intense study to become a Minister of God.
Then I learned the Truth that Jesus was a fraud.
2007-02-10 21:06:47 · update #5
I deny HaMosiach and Yahweh. They are no better than 'Satan' either.
2007-02-10 20:58:09 · answer #1 · answered by Metallion 1 · 1⤊ 3⤋
As a previous Catholic, i was also thought that the Holy Spirit is one with the Holy Trinity. This means that the Holy Spirit is also God himself. And you can receive the benefits or what they call "Gifts of Holy Spirit" through the sacrament of confirmation. The gifts are: 1. Fortitude 2. Knowledge 3. Counsel 4. Fear of the Lord 5. Piety 6. Wisdom 7. Understanding These are the things also received the 12 apostles during Pentecost.
2016-05-25 10:05:26 · answer #2 · answered by Orna 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm impressed. That's the most sound usage of biblical text to debunk Jesus I've ever seen. Ad an Atheist of sorts, I'm inclined to take your side of this particular argument, but sad to say it's a rare thing when interpretations like this hold up. However I'd appreciate it if you cited the excerpts you pulled this conclusion from.
You claim to have once studied to become clergy and quite honestly I see that in your behavior. There's a tendency of scholars in that area to hide the sources of their findings so that any errors--if there are any--are harder to spot.
Please understand I'm not intentionally trying to defy you and that I take your same stance. I'm just the type of person that prefers to check over such facts myself.
EDIT> My bad. I didn't catch those citings at the bottom of each addition.
2007-02-10 21:22:04 · answer #3 · answered by Luce's Darkness 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Jesus himself was accused of this very thing.
This is how he responded:
22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"
24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebub,[b] the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."
25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you
2007-02-10 21:02:37 · answer #4 · answered by pennoes 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm sorry I missed your factual basis for your presumptions and accusations. Oh wait. You have none. Perhaps you are the fraud. If you need facts about Yeshua, try a bible!
Good luck and God Bless.
2007-02-10 20:57:16 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Come Judgement Day, when Jesus Christ asks you why you denied Him, you're not going to have a good enough answer. And you won't like Jesus' answer.
2007-02-10 21:00:12 · answer #6 · answered by tracy211968 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Every blasphemies can be for give but not again the holly spirit watch out home boy you will end in bad It is not funny play like that
2007-02-10 20:58:40 · answer #7 · answered by The GOD Vision 4 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Christ said that you can deny him and make it to heaven, but to deny the Holy Spirit is damnation. So just by saying that you haven't denied the Holy Spirit. You have to have the Holy Spirit first to be able to deny it and I doubt you've had it, for the Holy Spirit gives understanding. If we Christians can't see, why can't you blasphemers understand?
2007-02-10 20:59:02 · answer #8 · answered by rdappa 4 · 1⤊ 3⤋
In a way, I agree... but the Messiak will not be a ONE person but a conglomerate of persons.
2007-02-10 20:57:52 · answer #9 · answered by Invisible_Flags 6 · 0⤊ 3⤋
You're blind!!! I will pray for you, that one day you will see the truth.
2007-02-10 20:56:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 5⤋