Does God plan everything in the Universe?

Question

Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you, right? Under this view of the universe, God plans everything."You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]

What this means is that God has pre-planned every abortion that has taken place on our planet.

If the concept of "God's plan" is true, you can first of all see that God wants us to be aborting children. Every single abortion is planned by God, so God must be doing it for a reason. Second, you can see that both the mother who requests the abortion and the doctor who performs it are blameless. Since it is God who planned the abortion of the child ,the mother and doctor are simply puppets are fulfilling God's plan. If not, then God doesn't control the universe. Then God is not all powerfull. Then God isn't God.

Answer 1

sorry but no, an imaginary being can not plan anything, you make things happen through your thoughts and actions

Answer 2

very interesting point. you always hear "God has a plan for everyone" and "everything happens for a reason" etc. i've started to wonder if those people actually believe every grain of sand on the planet is washed ashore exactly where it is, or every snowflake is structured for a purpose. i doubt it, and if these small meaningless acts happen, then larger ones probably do too. and then you have to decide where the line is drawn between natural acts and god-inspired ones, which seems impossible. so either yes, which would be weird, or no, and he probably doesn't plan anything, making Revelations a crock.

Answer 3

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get rid of your guilty concience............

God creates us and plans out lives for us. BUT... He does NOT control the power of FREE WILL........ Read about that sometime. You can't just take one paraggraph from the bible and proclaim that you know what it means. That is blasfamous.........

Your Bible question (regarding free-will or predestination) was:
> which is it do you have verses to back up eithier one? please help me!!!!

_______, the Bible reveals that regarding free-will and predestination,
it is _not_ one or the other, but rather, _both_. That is, the Bible
teaches
both the free-will of man and God's election or "predestination."


Unfortunately, the teachings and creeds of men have misdefined these
Biblical
concepts so that the impression is left that one cannot have both, only one
or the other.

We must accept the the "whole counsel of God on this subject instead of the
wisdom of men (Gal. 1:6-10; 1 Cor. 1:18-21).

Many men teach that man either has no free-will (fatalism), or limited
amounts of it. The Bible teaches that every person with a moral capacity
has the freedom of will to decide whether or not to obey God.

Simply put, the Bible teaches that God elected (predestined or set in place)
to save every soul who "fears God and works righteousness" (Acts 10:34-35).
That is, before time eternal, God predestined that men would be saved "in
Christ" (Eph. 1:3-4, 7-12). God predestined the "plan" of human redemption
(cf. Eph. 3:10-11).

God also determined that man would have free-will, the ability and
responsibility to choose to obey Him (cf. Gen. 3:1-6; Josh. 24:15; Matt.
11:28).

God did not predestine the man (which individuals would be saved & lost), He
predestined the plan (how men would be saved) - read again Acts 10:34-35;
Eph. 1:3-12; Rom. 8:28-30; 10:9-17.

Some do not understand the above passages on predestination. They think that
if a person is not of those predestinated, he is just out of luck, is
eternally damned, and there is nothing he can do about it. However, it is a
particular group or class of people that God chose before the foundation of
the world and not individuals. It is up to us to be part of that class (of
those "in Him") if we want to be of the chosen.

Let me illustrate it this way:
A school teacher on the first day of class told his students that some would
pass and some would fail the course they were about to take. He then
described the things necessary for one to be of those who would pass. At
the end of the school year, just as the teacher had said, some passed and
some failed. Since the teacher had predestinated the outcome before he
began, does it mean that he caused each individual to either pass or fail
and there was nothing they could do about it? Certainly not! It was up to
each student to be of whichever group he desired. Likewise, God
predetermined before He made the world that He would choose those "in
Christ" and now it is up to us to be of those in Christ.

By using our free-will we choose whether to be "in Christ" and thus saved
(Gal. 3:26-27).

So, we see God's part (His gracious plan of human redemption which is
accomplished through the death of Christ), and man's part (faith in Christ,
cf. Jas. 2:14-26; Matt. 7:21-23) combining to complete the equation of
salvation (Eph. 2:8-9).

If I have failed to address some specific point on this subject, please feel
free to write back and I will be glad to do so.

Sincerely,
Joe Price

Joe R Price
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Bible Answers
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Answer 4

Yes. (To the last question.) Except no, because clearly the people who preach this doctrine haven't truly explored the self-contradiction. There's no point in trying to argue against their beliefs from within the framework of their beliefs, because sooner or later, our arguments get trapped in the logical fallacies as well. The only solution is to conclude, rightfully, that what they believe is false. Not necessarily the existence of God or gods, but that their notion of how that plays out is false. Once we abandon that, we're free to explore the god/gods dilemma without the distraction of their conflicted morality. Much like the great philosophers did. Although I have trouble reading them, because sooner or later, I feel like my head is going to spin off. Unless I have some rum and Coke with my book. But then I don't feel much like reading. :)

Answer 5

Man!!! Are you mixed up... BIG TIME!!!
The verse you quote is by the psalmist who wrote it... about himself!
God does NOT plan abortions - people do! God does NOT murder - people do! When we don't, (or won't), listen to God, we're on our own... and look at where the world is now as a result of our rebellion and selfishness!
God IS all powerful, but He gives us a free choice to either follow Him or run to the beat of our own drum and ignore Him, (and His plans for us!). God does have a plan for each of us, but will we listen? The "choice" is totally ours.
Are you a good listener? He's got a plan just for you, if you care?!

Answer 6

In my OPINION, God was there is the beginning and made a few peoples and planned their whole lives. Then after the Noah's Ark thing he decide to let his people chose to do whatever and left them to make their own choices. So no God does not plan everything he used to but he does not anymore.

Answer 7

David was praising God and acknowledging Him for who He is. He was speaking for himself only.

Your logic assumes that we have no ability to choose the way our lives go and that God makes every decision of every moment of every day. So when you decide to have a hot dog instead of a hamburger, who is making that decision? You or God? If God controls everything and has pre-planned everything as you contend, then you wouldn't have the option of hot dog vs. hamburger. You wouldn't have to think about it. You wouldn't be able to choose your own clothes, friends, husband, what time you go to be or what time you get up. And you wouldn't be able to choose whether you have a baby or an abortion.

God has one plan and one plan only, to reconcile the children who have been lost to Him because of the fall in the Garden through His plan of salvation. That is it. The decision to follow God is an individual one, either you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior or you don't.

Please don't use the Bible and pick and choose what you want to attempt to bolster your argument.

Just read your About Me. Lofty goals for someone who hasn't done a theological study of the Bible. And your use of the term "et al" is also incorrect. I believe you were looking for "etc." Et al is a Latin term and is used as an abbreviation of `et alii' (masculine plural) or `et aliae' (feminine plural) or `et alia' (neutral plural) when referring to a number of people and others, et al.

If you are attempting to discredit Christianity, please read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. The Case for Christ records Lee Strobel's attempt to "determine if there's credible evidence that Jesus of Nazareth really is the Son of God." His publisher says: " . . . The Reporter: Lee Strobel, educated at Yale Law School, award-winning former legal editor of the Chicago Tribune—with a background of atheism. . . Strobel cross-examines the experts with tough, point-blank questions: How reliable is the New Testament? Does evidence exist for Jesus outside the Bible? Is there any reason to believe the resurrection was an actual historical event? . . ." Lee Strobel is now a Christian. His investigation to discredit Christ lead to his salvation. Care to give it a shot?

Answer 8

Interesting question - and have read your About Me:- did you know that intolerance only has one 'L' ?

See my questions - the real problem is not that of what God controls, but rather what being sentient and self-aware is. Before we can ascertain what God controls or whether he/she/it exists in the first place - first we have to understand what it is that gives us the ability to perceive the concept of God in the first place!

Einstein said:-

"The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible."

Chew on that for a while and do get round to spelling intolerance in you About Me correctly - won't you ?

There's a good lady !

Answer 9

You have a point there. I personally believe there is a God, but have no idea of any plans or anything about God. It's a mystery that I hope will be uncovered to us after we pass on.

Answer 10

Maybe God foresaw that those people would be horrible parents, so he cut the kid some slack and saved him or she from their misery and ple-planned that abortion. Hey, thats what a loving God would do, right? ; )

Answer 11

God gives us choices. He does not force us to do anything. I have had 2 abortions and that was my choice. They are now in Heaven with the creator, enjoying Jesus and the Father.Abortions are murder. I have taken that sin to God and he has forgiven me. Part of God's commandments are thou shalt not murder. .