Is science dealing with what can be observed and reproduced by experimentation??

Question

The origin of life can be neither observed nor reproduced in any laboratory. By definition, then, true scence can give us no knowledge what-so-ever about where we came from and how we got here. Belief in evolutionary THEORY is a matter of sheer faith. And dogmatic belief in any naturailst theory is not more "scientific" than any other kind of religious faith.

PS: Naturalists are often dedicated to their faith with devout passion that rivals or easily exceeds the fanaticism of any radical religious zealots.

Tell me your thoughts. : )

Answer 1

Interesting . Yes, this is very good.
Macroevlution is a leap of faith.

Answer 2

Your definition of Science is distorted, useless and illogical.

Science deals with empirical evidence. That includes, yes, observations. Those observations must be repeatable, to ensure that they weren't mistaken. In the case of an experiment, that means repeating the experiment, because the time when some observations could be made has passed. When the thing which is being observed doesn't change, eg. a rock or a fossil, it simply means making the observations again.

'Observation' does not refer to watching the whole thing happening in front of you. Even in an experiment, eg. mixing two chemicals, 'observations' does not mean directly observing the molecule breaking apart, atoms colliding, new bonds forming, and the new molecule going on its way. What happens during a chemical reaction is evidenced by many indirect observations, following rules of evidence and reasoning.

ALL theories are evidenced in the same way. And THEORIES are the peak in science. Explanations as to HOW and WHY things happen.

Theories must make testable predictions. Evolution by NS does so and has been copiously tested.

And the origin of life has NOTHING what-so-ever to do with the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection.

If you wonder why people get angry with your incredibly ignorant attacks it is because they are based on deliberate misinformation, deception and lies. That is the height of immorality in discussing science. The Bible isn't too keen on it either.

Answer 3

You know, if you'd post these questions in the biology category, you'd more likely find out the answers you don't want to hear.

We can get an idea of what chemicals are involved at the creation of life, but the exact process is unknown. It does not refute the evidence that is known about evolution, and such is not faith. This still does not make religion science.

BTW, science does not require a labratory. Most evolutionary study is done in the field.

Answer 4

Physics is a science and deals mostly with what cannot be observed. Eg quantum mechanics. It also deals with space and space-time. For example, we have a good idea how planets formed, but we've never seen it actually happen. We have general relativity, but it is very difficult to experimentally prove (though it can be done). Just because evolution deals with fossils and whatnot does not mean it cannot be proven. Microevolution is a well proven fact and has been observed in the lab.

Remember, way back when, Galileo said that the earth was round, not flat. The religious persecuted him and forced him to recant eventually. Years later, people realized that he was right, and it didn't abolish religion. Too many xtians are worried that evolution will prove the bible wrong, and so they tell lies and distort the truth.

Answer 5

Science properly refers to any theory which can be refuted by contrary evidence, for it can be proved that the predictive power (i.e., usefulness) of any theory derives from its refutability. Chemistry and physics are obviously sciences, but so are anthropology, paleontology, and others where only historical rather than current data is available. Most scientific theories are inherently unproveable: they are universal statements, and it is always possible that a counterexample may be lurking somewhere, not yet found. But evolution consists of existential statements (two of them), which are provable by demonstration; both of these having been demonstrated, evolution is a proven fact. But this proof does not, in and of itself, reveal the evolutionary history of any species: for that, we need other evidence. Which is available in great abundance, from fossils, genetics, and otherwise. Note particularly: faith has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this. For a discussion of evolution generally, see [1]. For a history of evolution on the planet, see [2].

Answer 6

I see your point... yet I can feel the pressure of your narrow-mindedness. May I remind you that only 500 years ago, everyone (christian of course) thought the earth was the center of the universe and that the Sun revolved around it. Today, we know that the Sun revolves around the Earth and that the center of the universe is undetermined because the size of the universe is undeterminable.

Life can possibly be reproduced in a lab in due time. However, now all we can do is rely on faith to answer the unanswerable by science. Isn't that true? To this date, no no one knows who killed JFK. We have no evidence to support that Lee Harvey Oswald shot him. And because of this simple lack of evidence, we have millions of theories all claiming to be true. Faith is a theory. Science is based on theory.

I theorize that the world will never be completely known and questions like yours will always be floating around for years until there is evidence.

Answer 7

Science doesn't claim to know everything, yet is always studying and observing the natural world and forming newer and better conclusions. It replaces or modifies old theories,facts,etc. with newer ones as more info is discovered. A scientific theory is a set of related facts, after being supported by numerous experiments.

Answer 8

There is a very important thing to remember, when considering that science has yet to reproduce the origin of life: IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO RECREATE THE CONDITIONS OF THE EARTH AS THEY WERE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. The technology doesn't exist. It's that simple.

I'm curious...are you posting these flowery pieces of nonsense in R&S in an attempt to find someone who agrees with you? Go to the biology board and ask these questions there...you'd have a better chance of learning something about these topics...and yes, it would refute your ID leanings.

Answer 9

Evolutionary theory is based on tangible mechanisms (genetic inheritence, mutation and natural selection) each of these has been observed. Evolutionary theory has been experimentally confirmed.

To twist reality to the extent that you have in this question is to lie.

Answer 10

First, understand the difference between "scientific theory", "theory" and "THEORY", and between "evolution" and "abiogenesis". Then you'll be able to ask more intelligent questions.

It's a shame you're just 54 years behind the times:

http://www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_chem/Exobiology/miller.html

Answer 11

Evolution work with life, regardless of origin.