If someone like me who has a painful illness with NO MEDICAL REMEDY TO RESOLVE IT - ( i live with severe congestive heart failure & terrible edema swelling all my limbs & abdomen - a massive heart attack from a car crash caused it). I am an Orthodox Christian, I know my priest says I'll be eternally condemned for suicide. But I begged Jesus to cure me, or if He would not, then to take me soon to Him to release me from this daily torment. Tell me - just as in a human court, the judge before sentencing, hears character testimonies, evaluations of mental states, indications of remorse, takes everything into account before sentencing - then wouldn't Jesus do at least as much to evaluate my guilt & punishment.? BEfore condemning me? Jesus will know the deeper circumstances which motivated me.to end it.
I can't walk & step normally, I can't flex my legs to climb steps or wear my pants, I'm rigid like wood with water pressure swelling my tissues within. Perhaps Jesus will show me mercy?
2007-02-10 16:05:50 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Danny I do not know who you are nor do I know all your circumstances however I will not blow the usual smoke at you.
First the God of my understanding the great I AM the Spirit Creator of all things is a loving Spirit and not interested in Guilt or Shame. In case you do not know Shame comes from the opinions of others and Guilt comes from our own opinion. The Creator is into conviction. That is the feeling that comes before the act what ever it is.
I will pray with you to this Spirit that he consider granting your request. However (and I do not have to know) what you actually want. I have some questions for you that you must answer for yourself (not me)
1.Do you know where you are going after you die? Are you sure? Absolutely Sure? If you do not know then the Spirit is waiting to give you that answer. Ask HIM. I use the pronoun because HE was a man when HE became flesh and dwelt among us. Once you know the answer then are you ready for that? Again ask the Spirit.
2.Do you believe that your condition can be cured and if so who do you think deserves the credit?
3.The Spirit’s name is eYshua pronounced soft e YA (emphasized) and shua diminished. Ask the Spirits who love the name of eYshua to come near you and heal you. All spontaneous remission from disease and physical malady is done by these physical beings that live in our corporeal reality (our cosmos). While they have individual names you do not need to know them. It is better if you don’t because you might be tempted to worship them and they are created servants of eYshua just as we are.
4.First ask eYshua silently to yourself to grant your wish. Ask for what you would prefer. Don’t try to give him choices. HE is God. Then say out loud Spirits who love the name of eYshua draw neat and (tell them what you prefer just what you told eYshua in private)
5.I will pray for you as well and I believe you can be completely repaired by Spontaneous Remission. Or you will die quickly whichever best meets your need.
2007-02-10 16:55:02 · answer #1 · answered by Bullfrog21 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I am so sorry you are going through this. I don't have a good answer for this. I guess I would have to say that I do not believe you are condemned for suicide. We have the ability to be forgiven anything.
That being said, I don't think this is the way for you to go. I cannot know the greatness of your pain or how weary and worn down you must be. No one can, but we have to believe that if God is allowing this then there must be a reason. Even for Job there was a reason. The only thing I can say is look around and see what God is waiting for you to do. Then focus all you have on accomplishing it. I have people in my church who have used this time to spread the gospel. Is there someone in your family who is not saved? A nurse or doctor? God knows when it is your time. He had it planned before you were conceived. Persevere in the knowledge that He loves you and He would never ask you to suffer for nothing. I will pray for you. God bless.
2007-02-11 00:21:16 · answer #2 · answered by micheletmoore 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm sorry for what you are facing. My grandpa fought a long battle with congestive heart failure, enphasema, asthma and cancer. He was such a fighter. He couldn't get out of his wheel chair, he couldn't be around anyone with perfume (or even some soap smells), couldn't read newspapers b/c of the ink on the paper. There were so many things he couldn't do, but he was a great prayer warrior. He was up every 3 hours on his breathing machine, tired from so little sleep, but every time he was up he spent that time praying for our pastor, our family, our church family. He was such an inspiration to me and many others. He couldn't read his Bible (again b/c of the ink) but he listened to it on tape. He would have given so much to be able to go to church and yet there were others around, very healthy that just didn't go. He loved life and his family and God........I am sorry you are going through this, but God DOES have a plan for your life. You are not an accident, what happened to you is bad, but God can use it and you for the good. Keep praying for Him to be with you and to show you what you can do for Him. Take the focus off of you and place it on Him. He will see you through this. Remember, God will never give you more than you can handle. Just turn to Him and ask Him for help, He's just waiting for you to call on Him.
2007-02-11 00:18:31 · answer #3 · answered by Mandy S 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Okay, I'll share my thoughts and try to put myself in your shoes for a moment.
If I were suffering and had a terminal illness, I would do my best to strengthen my faith and my trust in God. Yes, I would pray for healing and get others to pray for my condition also, but at the same time, I would ask that His Will be done in all that was happening. And I would continually prepare myself for my "homecoming" with God by a unique thought or saying "Lord, lead me closer to You." I would ask God to show His love for me through using others to minister to me during this time in my life and I wouldn't focus on wanting to die all the time. I would try to focus on what little things I might could do to encourage others who would be left here on this earth when I am gone.
I don't think that Christians who commit suicide go to hell. They don't have to plead their case at judgment. God knows everything and he would know the circumstances. However, taking your own life is like telling God you do not trust Him to see you through to the end on HIS timing. He still may have a special purpose for you despite what you are going through right now. I think I'd rather please Him, even though suffering and waiting, rather than to act selfishly in taking my own life.
I wish you peace and strength and will pray for you. May God give you a special blessing every day and may you have joy in your heart until the day He decides it's time for you to go.
2007-02-11 00:24:42 · answer #4 · answered by TPhi 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
My prayers be with you. I'm not sure I want to answer this, but I feel compelled. God does not want us to suffer. I just know I don't believe you would be "eternally condemened" for ending this. I stress this point... I'm not saying that is what you should do... I have no idea what I would do in your situation, but I am a Christian and condemming you for eternity does not sound like the God I worship. Be strong in your prayers and remember to listen for God's answer. Ask Him to make it clear for you to understand. I will pray for clarity for you as well. Peace be with you.
2007-02-11 00:13:21 · answer #5 · answered by Scott B 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I'm so sorry to hear how much you suffer. While your situation seems hopeless, please remember that life is a gift from God and he values you. While God may not remove your thorn in the flesh, he will sustain you - pray for strength, endurance and courage. Look to the promises God makes. While things look bleek now, He promise a wonderful future for his people. I will pray that He sends someone to you to give you spiritual strength needed to endure....you do the same.
2007-02-11 00:50:58 · answer #6 · answered by In my humble opinion... 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all I rebuke the lying spirit that has said you will be condemned to hell if you take your own life. You are saved and kept saved by grace through faith alone my brother. So, reject that condemnation!
However, you are very much in a JOB type situation with your physical life right now and you have just as much right as he did to mentally, emotionally and spiritually feel the things that are causing you to want relief enough consider ending your life.
But, I want to ask you Danny, PLEASE do not bail out on yourself, and even more importantly, those who love you now and those who will be needing you in their lives in the future.
Others may think it cruel of me to say this to you right now, but suicide is absolutely the most selfish thing you could ever choose to do. You are a Christian, and you have the Holy Spirit within to give you the comforting and the strength you need to endure the pain and suffering.
I have experienced wanting to die because of pain and suffering that was greater than I had the ability to deal with. I understand the feelings of complete and utter hopelessness. I want you to know that your Father's Word is true and He really is with you in this.
I believe if you would do all that is within you to call upon Him for strength to turn your focus away from your physical plight and seek His face to enable you to deal with the issues of your heart (spiritually), you will find an inner healing begin to overtake you in the power and presence of the Holy Spirit.
Then, when you have been set free from all anger, bitterness and unforgiveness, and taken advantage of this season to become truly intimate with your Father in worship and praise, His peace that passes understanding will overcome you and you will find the treasure of a contentment that will reduce the sufferings of your physical condition to that which is nothing more than a blessed opportunity for rejoicing.
You have the opportunity to become a powerful witness and living breathing testimony of who your God is NOW...in your WEAKNESS...far greater than you ever had when you were whole and strong.
Please do not leave us Danny?! His body needs you as a challenge to our lazy faith and sanctified complacencies, and the world needs you as evidence of the power of God in the life of one of His children. Whether it manifests through His healing touch that miraculously restores you completely to physical health, or through His miraculous touch that empowers you with the strength and grace to become mighty in spirit in spite of the weakness and suffering of your flesh, He will draw others unto Himself if you will lift Him up!
"Call unto me, and I will hear you, and I will answer you, and I will show you great and mighty things which you do not know." Jer 33:3
2007-02-11 00:48:52 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Do NOT commit suicide. The Lord does things for a reason. The reason that you are suffering is not known. Just have faith in Jesus and you will find your answer. I hope he has mercy on you and Im sorry about your condition
2007-02-11 00:12:15 · answer #8 · answered by ninethirteen81 2 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Please show me where, in the Bible, that you are told that you cannot commit sucide. If it does not exist, I would say "go for it". If there's nothing to be gained other than relief, and eternal paradise with your Lord and Savior, then go for it. Please don't misunderstand, I want only the best for you. If you feel death will releive you from your misery on Earth, then I'll support that decision. Anyway, Jesus may yet save you. He has a way of showing up when you least expect it.
2007-02-11 00:11:14 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Sorry about your sufferings, I would have to give you the example of Annie Johnston Flint, a woman who was incontinenced, had cancer, arthritic, and blind. who lived a life in tremendous pain. But at the end of her life(she was never healed) she managed to write this poem....
He giveth more grace when the burden grow greater,
He sendeth more stength when the labors increase;
To added affiction, He addeth His mercy,
To multiplied trials His multiplied peace.
When we have exhausted our store of endurance,
When our strength has failed e're the day is half done,
When we reach the end of our hoarded resources
Our Father's full giving has only begun.
His love has no limit, His grace has no measure,
His power has no boundary known unto men;
For out of His infinite riches in Jesus
He giveth, and giveth, and giveth again ! "
2007-02-11 00:14:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋