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Col 3:22-24
22Slaves, obey your earthly masters* in everything, not only while being watched and in order to please them, but wholeheartedly, fearing the Lord.

Do you ever encourage slaves to obey their Masters?




1Tim 2:11-12
11Let a woman* learn in silence with full submission. 12I permit no woman* to teach or to have authority over a man;* she is to keep silent.


Do you discourage women from teaching? Do you ensure that they are silent?

2007-02-10 12:54:09 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Christian apostle Paul had this experience. Often he encountered a certain institution that badly needed reforming: slavery. Many slaves became Christians, and undoubtedly longed for freedom. Did Paul counsel violent revolt, or escape? No, he said: “You slaves, be obedient in everything to those who are your masters in a fleshly sense, not with acts of eyeservice, as men pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, with fear of Jehovah. Whatever you are doing, work at it whole-souled as to Jehovah, and not to men, for you know that it is from Jehovah you will receive the due reward.”—Col. 3:22-24; see also 1 Peter 2:18-20.

Naturally, if a Christian had the opportunity to get free from slavery, he would take it. But this was not to become such an obsession that it overshadowed his main purpose in life: serving Jehovah. As Paul said: “Were you called when a slave? Do not let it worry you; but if you can also become free, rather seize the opportunity.”—1 Cor. 7:21-24.

While few today are actually slaves, some may feel that they are little better than that because of their economic situation. If there is some way to improve their situation, of course, that would be a fine thing to do. But this should not become an all-consuming passion. Remember Paul’s words: “Those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and hurtful desires.”—1 Tim. 6:9.

Jesus Christ also came in contact with the problems caused by poverty. He said: “Never be anxious and say, ‘What are we to eat?’ or, ‘What are we to drink?’ or, ‘What are we to put on?’ For all these are the things the nations are eagerly pursuing. For your heavenly Father knows you need all these things. Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.”—Matt. 6:31-33.

Should Jesus and Paul have become involved in social issues and reforms, as some say? Well, some reformers did arise during the long history of the Roman Empire. Perhaps they accomplished some good. But usually their work was changed after they died, or it was swept away, at the latest, at the fall of the empire itself. Similarly, Jesus and Paul might have accomplished much in the way of reform. But it would undoubtedly have been destroyed, at the latest, when the Roman Empire finally collapsed. That is what happens when effort is put into reforming a system that is destined to pass away.

Instead of devoting himself to social reform, Jesus ‘bore witness to the truth.’ (John 18:37) As a result, many, both of that day and this, believed in him. Thus they gained the opportunity for everlasting life in a system where all their “rights” will be guaranteed. (John 3:16) How many social reformers will see such a lasting result from their hard work?

With respect to the God-assigned roles in marriage, Paul wrote: “Let wives be in subjection to their husbands as to the Lord, because a husband is head of his wife as the Christ also is head of the congregation, he being a savior of this body.” (Ephesians 5:22, 23; compare 1 Corinthians 11:3.) Yes, the respective roles of husband and wife differ, but this does not imply that one mate is inferior.
In reference to Paul’s words at 1 Timothy 2:12, quoted the “silence” called for was in relation to teaching and exercising spiritual authority in the congregation, this out of regard for the earlier-mentioned divinely prescribed man-woman relationship.

This does not mean that women cannot be teachers of divine truth. Paul encouraged older women to be “teachers of what is good” to younger women. In following the example of Eunice and Lois, who instructed Timothy, Christian mothers are to train their children in godly ways. (Titus 2:3-5; 2 Timothy 1:5)

2007-02-10 13:47:07 · answer #1 · answered by papavero 6 · 0 0

No matter how low a position we take in this world whether it is scraping gum or being a CEO, work as if you were working for the Lord and not taking advantage of either your employer or employees and do what is right even when people ARENT watching.

All Christians I know of take that verse to mean that Paul was writing to a church that had a problem with women usurping authority and being big-mouths which was more outrageous back then culturally than what it is today. The teaching thing would more have to do with women not holding the office of elder, thereby having the highest authority in the church which goes against the set created order from Genesis of the women being in submission; not literally that women should hold absolutely no teaching positions. That idea just wouldnt make sense in most situations and is not suppported anywhere else in Scripture.

It sounds like you think the Bible is just a bunch of stupid sayings but I would encourage you to have more faith in God and study the Scriptures hard to find the true meaning of things for yourself.

2007-02-10 13:15:28 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Col 3:22-24 We as Christians no longer have earthly masters as we are now servants of Christ. However, we apply this scripture in our daily jobs as giving our bosses an honest day's work, even when he is not standing over us.

1Tim 2:11-12 Today we apply this scripture by encouraging the husband to be the head of the household though the wife is not a slave. We discourage women from sitting in the church pulpit or as the Church Pastor unless her husband is the lead Pastor.
You have to learn how to rightly divide the word of God.

2007-02-10 13:05:12 · answer #3 · answered by Heaven's Messenger 6 · 0 0

According to Col 3:22-24, it is to say, no matter what station in life you have, be glad and do your best. One of Paul's letters, a short one, I want to say Titus, but don't quote me, anyways, the whole letter is to a friend of his, his slave had run away and went to Paul, Paul sends the man back to his owner, and sends him with this letter that the slave is coming back of his free will and that he should be forgiven. Also, Naaman,(O.T.) had a slave girl, and instead of her being sullen, she told him of Elijah, the prophet who could heal his leaprosy 1Tim 2:11-12. I am a WELS Lutheran, we do not permit women to be pastors for this very passage. They may be elementry teachers, but in the secondary level, they do not teach religion or read devotions.

2007-02-10 13:02:24 · answer #4 · answered by Miss Know-it-All 2 · 0 0

Col 3:22-24
I don't encourage slavery, never did. But to apply it to myself I consider my work performance to be to the glory of God.

1Tim 2:11-12
You must understand the circumstance in which Paul wrote this letter. At the time there were a great many women who considered that their new found freedom in Christ gave them 'permission' to speak out in church and many of them were spouting false doctrine and Paul was admonishing those specific women, not women in general. There are many instances of Paul giving reference to women who were helping in the ministry at that time. Lydia, Priscilla and Dorcas are the names that come to mind, right off the top of my head.

Um, I don't know if that helps or anything or if this might have bearing but I teach the adult Sunday School class in our church and my one woman friend is entering seminary this fall. I think we shouldn't be cuttiing God's workforce in half, do you?

; ) Have a great day!

2007-02-10 13:05:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I am an employee in an office. I treat the people I work for with dignity. I don't talk behind their backs, I am pleasant and I try to do the best I can. Just because I am not a slave doesn't mean I can't learn from this....!

The verses about the women in the church you quoted is about women having authority over men in a pastoral sense. Our church doesn't have women pastors. There are other verses about the older women teaching the younger....we have a women's bible study, and we study the bible.

Hope that helps you out....I'm sure you were very SINCERE in your seeking.

2007-02-10 12:58:42 · answer #6 · answered by Esther 7 · 1 1

We are not living in the slave days now. Remember we abolished slavery. Why are you still there? We have freedom of religion now in America. We don't live in a pagan country. Well maybe some of you do. If you do you will have to answer that question for yourself. Praise God we don't here in the Good OLe USA.

2007-02-10 13:00:49 · answer #7 · answered by justice 2 · 0 0

The first scripture would be the relationship between the employer and employee.This is how you would apply it in your daily life.The second is that women are not allowed to stand in front of the entire congregation and teach.

2007-02-10 15:16:54 · answer #8 · answered by zachary b 2 · 0 0

all of them do yet i will in basic terms focus on the foodstuff and hygiene regulations in Leviticus. those regulations can now be shown to have been based all this time on the God Yahweh's working wisdom of the germ concept of illness and the famous human physique. those regulations nevertheless persist with at present for people to stay with as they did the day they have been establsihed via Yahweh a protracted time in the past. subsequently Yahweh is quoted telling Moses that those regulations have been to be accompanied via all destiny generations to return simply by fact they have been that some distance stepped forward for us people to stay with for as long as we inhabit planet Earth.

2016-09-28 22:44:52 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

I follow your first one by doing my job, following orders and directions.
I am the man of the house.
I instruct my wife in the ways of the Lord.

2007-02-10 13:00:44 · answer #10 · answered by drg5609 6 · 0 0

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