Christians can God feel pain? Isn't God the one who created pain? So maybe Jesus didn't feel pain when he died

Question

palomink: why does God have to suffer to feel others pain? Was God mean and not caring to begin with?

Answer 1

Dear Affan: Your questions have "reeled" me in - twice today!

Within His Spirit-Mind, God does not feel pain. Without physical-ness only His Mind could decide upon pain. Pain is actually a judgment thought the mind is making regarding something experienced - through the physical. Mental pain is an anguish, an emotion; like being dispirited or depressed. God experiences none. Pain is unknown in His autonomous experience of living, or giving life. All thoughts are His Thoughts first! All things emanate outward from God to us. The souls or spirit-minds He Creates live within Him since He fills all space (the Void). His Thoughts are ordered as "higher" or "lower" Thoughts. Although He knows All and contains All Knowledge, He does not utilize every Thought He contains. The Kingdom, within Himself, (not earth) was His highest Thought. His Thoughts are Abstract. His Ecstatic love is offered as an over-flowing, outward, to His Child Who He "sees" as One. Although Created individually, and receiving His Thoughts, the Child can utilize His Thoughts AND think for it's Self, also. We are Known by God as His One Child ; intertwined through and around each other's spirit-minds, within Him, as One. We have no shape. We have no color. We are pure consciousness, pure Awareness, Thought and Mind. We are part OF Him.

God never Created pain. The physical, is not His highest Thought. But the One son of God had an interest in the physical, as an experience. And, Free Will is part of himself as it is part of the Creator. Being Boundless, Unlimited, and Unopposed is the essence of the Kingdom. There are many conclusions to be made from the physical experience. . ..

There are many levels of spirit-mind. It's capabilities are awesome, literally. It thinks at a speed that humans can only call nanoseconds! It has Conscious Awareness of all thought at once - since no delineations of Time enter Eternity. All is NOW. All Thought travels through the One Mind and all is Known. Thought, then, is returned all at the same time - as a great crescendo of life - which is Mind and Thought. The study of Spirit is expansive to the human Intellect. It allows us to reach new dimensions of concepts and to understand, better, our position to the Creator and to each other. Spirit can be aware of it's Home in God, AND envision physical life and its experiences at the same time ; all while keeping the two experiences separate from each other. While this is terribly capsulized, main points are being made. There isn't room for all the explanations.

Jesus' soul was in perfect alignment with the Holy Spirit, in a Partnership that is our individual destiny. At some point of Time, each of us will develop a similar Partnership with the Holy Spirit. Within that alignment is an experience of transcendence of the physical. It's about focus ; a focus upon our own holy Self, in our Higher Reality, inside our Holy Father. It's a focus upon Him. This focus can deny all other experiences - just by the means of - focusing ! However, the Holy Spirit must be in operation, enhancing this focus within our spirit. We can not achieve it alone. Can the body be transcended - in pain? Yes.

As a Spiritualist, Jesus has been teaching me (I invited him into my life) Transcendence for the past two years. You have no idea what we can learn ; where he can transport us to - for he learned the same from the Holy Spirit, first. Between the lessons of Transcendence and Detachment, Return to full Awareness of God and leaving physical life behind is possible. Suffice it to say, Jesus was prepared for the Cross. I know this, due to his teaching me. Humans have very different perceptions of what has occurred in history. We simply don't understand nor know - unless taught, finally, differently.

Gandhi knew Transcendence also. Many Teachers have used it. He was beaten several times until almost unrecognizable. He claimed he felt nothing, although the body showed the markings.

Best regards, Lana

Answer 2

Yes He can. We are made in His Image, and are mere reflections of Him. Our pain is only a shadow of the pain God feels, especially when His creations turn on Him, causing their own destruction.

Jesus felt every bit of the pain involved in His Passion. To deny that would be to insult His Work on your behalf.

Answer 3

Since we are just human, we feel pain in just our flesh, but since God is so much Bigger and Greater, maybe His pain is that much worse. Jesus took upon Himself the pain and suffering of every human being that ever lived and shall live whether they believe it or not.

Answer 4

Jesus came to earth as a man,giving up His person as God,therefor felt everything we feel

Answer 5

Jesus felt pain when he died. He came to Earth in the flesh.

Answer 6

Yes, in Christian theology God can suffer.

It's the reason Christianity can actually have something approaching a coherent theodicy, which Islam cannot -- you can CALL God "ar-Rahim," but unless God suffers, your words mean nothing.

It's also one of the major civilizing influences on Christian culture, IMHO.

Answer 7

Christianity contradicts itself..

Answer 8

If Jesus never suffered, His death wouldn't have meant everything it did.

Answer 9

I think He does especially when people deny Him and break His commandments It breaks His heart.

Answer 10

Nah, he felt pain, but he was a masochist, you didn't think he'd volunteer himself to be tortured for nothing did you?

Praise me, amen.