Why aren't you Christians all PACIFIST???

Question

I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm making a personal attack, but I am.


Did someone say "Thou shalt not kill" for NOTHING!??!

Ironic how the majority of supporter of the war in Iraq are Christians.


Did you people learn nothing while going at church? Were you too busy flinging spitballs at the preacher?

Answer 1

Kill = murder. Defending ourselves in time of war is not murder. But if you actually had an education you might have already known that.

Answer 2

Who said we can't kill? Who claims we do not have the right to protect ourselves and our interests? We are to avoid the shedding of innocent blood. Murder is a sin. Protection is not.

Let's review an example. Someone breaks into your house while you're home. Are we suppose to just talk to the guy? Do we offer him coffee and donuts? Sometimes this may work. But, the person just used force to enter your home. The law of most states justifies using deadly force to meet this encounter.

If a person shoots and kills the intruder, does this make him a non-pacifist? The soldiers fighting against Germany and Japan, are they pro-war?

Until the world learns to repects others and their property, there will be war. I didn't say love each other, even though this would be great. People have decided to take what they want, when they want. Are we suppose to sit upon our donkeys and do nothing?

If we had released our military generals to fight in Iraq, the war would have ended several years ago. The same is true with Viet Nam. The problem with people is they want to sit on their duff and do nothing. Everyone is protesting about things they know nothing about.

"They kill babies!" protesters shouted during the late '60's and early '70's. But, did they really research what was going on over there? NO. Did they attempt to make things better? NO. They got caught up in the moment and protested (and showed to the world their ignorance).

If we had turned lose the big dogs in Nam or Iraq, these wars could have been won in months. Would anyone have protested then? Probably not. When you have a long lasting war, the public gets tired of it. This was true with WW II

If we had fought the wars to win, look at how many lives could have been saved. Over 400,000 enemy soldiers died in Nam. If we kicked butt and took names, how many of their lives would have been spared? I don't know how many civilians were killed (by both sides) in Nam, but a quick victory would have saved a lot of people.

The best example of this is the war with Japan. Have you ever heard of how many people were killed with the multiple fire bombings of Tokyo? I believe is number is around 325,000. Mostly innocent civilians. Yet, what does the media talk about?

There has been numerous books, movies, editorials, and such about the dropping of the nukes. Yet, these bombs killed less then the fire bombings of Tokyo. How many times have you heard of how many lives were saved by destroying two cities with nuclear weapons?

Since Japan believed in fighting to the death (this means women and children fighting also), the experts believed there would be between 750,000 to one million Americans and British soldiers killed just getting on land. How many Japanese would have died?

God does not promote killing. He wants everyone to live in harmony. Yet, He has flooded the Earth, destoryed cities with fire and brimstone, brought city walls down, and had the Angel of Death do his dirty work. There is a time and place for everything. Killing for the sake of killing is wrong. Killing, for protection, should be avoided. But, intruders will come a calling.

Does doing nothing make a person anti-war and a pacifist?

Answer 3

I'm sorry you feel the need to place all Christians in one big group.
My grandmother was mugged by a black-man I'm not ignorant enough to conclude that all black men are muggers. That is just being a bigot.
If your not a Christian sweep your own side of the street. If you are a Christian then You would be a pacifist. You cannot be both there are many Christians who are sinners there are many Jews and atheist and Muslims who are Going against there own religions Its sad.
There are many more Christians who are for peace. We pray for all soldiers and we WORK for peace in our church.
Mother Teresa was asked during the Vietnam war if she would join in a march against the war.SHE said NO that would just be another war. A war against war. Have a march for peace and I will Join you.
You seem to be at WAR just another warrior in another religious war. Why don't you start working for peace telling us how you do that.

Answer 4

We are commanded to be an army of occupation. Our job is to pacify this planet until His Return.

HOWEVER, the War in Iraq has NOTHING to do with Christianity. That's just a SECULAR nation fighting back against terror.Remember? Christians are ALWAYS being reminded about the 'Seperation of Church and State'. I guess that's just when it's convenient???

GWB doesn't care about religion. He cares about Oil, and the agenda of his daddy's Shadow Government. THAT is what Iraq is about.

Answer 5

Was what was done on 9/11 wrong? Is genocide wrong? Then you agree on moral grounds that they are wicked and evil acts against our fellow man. Should we be condoning their actions? Justice and righteousness are not satisfied when good men do nothing. Pacifism can only go so far. Read the Christian Bible lately? God is all about justice and righteousness, and so are His people. It was the pacifism in Somalia and Yemen (a Clinton legacy) that eventual lead to their thinking we would do nothing about their terrorism.

Answer 6

Apparently, we were. I can say "we" because I'm a Southern Baptist (keep reading...).

There are all kinds of people who say that "kill" in the commandments mean "murder" and that war is okay, because it's not murder. "Those people aren't innocent, they're shooting back!"

But the fact is that if all of us (Christians) were doing what we're supposed to do (love like Christ), we wouldn't have any reason for war. If we loved those people like we love ourselves and our family and our nation, I doubt there'd be any problem. I think most of us support the war because we feel guilty that we could've prevented it. At least, I feel guilty.

I know that sounds pretty naive, but if you look at the situation like Christians do, it really is that simple. We believe that the love of Christ transforms people into objects worthy of His love.

Answer 7

Jesus offered to us freedom (apply Matt. 18:16, 2 Cor. 13:1). If one applies that concept, the 'old testament' is the law of Moses, not Genesis-Malachi (violates 2 Tim. 3:16-17). The Israelites were also told to eliminate the people that occupied the 'promise land'. (Did that idea include 'kill them')?

Answer 8

Well if you're going to quote the bible you need to go further that just "thou shalt not kill". Try the book of Exodus chapter 2 (hey! being a preacher's kid is gonna pay off finally!). In this book it is all of the "laws" that man is supposed to live by. Basicly, if you murder, kidnap, steal, assault, perform "unnatural sexual acts", or any number of other things you are to be put to death. You've heard the phrase "an eye for an eye"? Yah....that's it the section about rape. George Carlin said it best....Do you believe in God? Yes. Fine. Do you believe in MY god? No. BOOM! Dead!

Answer 9

There's plenty of legitimate killing (and stealing) in the Bible. Like anything else you can't make absolute generalities out of one small part.

You have to read the whole thing, up to and including "genuine leather" on the binding, and then decide if you believe it or not.

Answer 10

Our war is not of flesh and blood, it is in the spirit realm.

I'm conquering demons every day.

If you didn't notice, 80% of America call themselves Christians. What a shame, our soldiers are fighting for our freedom. Stupid war-mongers...

Soldiers don't start wars, politicians do.

Answer 11

There's a difference between killing and murdering, and the difference can be found in the in its scenario.

Murdering is against biblical law...killing is not necessarily. God commanded David to wipe out nations at one time but it was clearly understood that murdering was against God's regulation. Murder is an act done out of selfish ambition. Killing is not wrong in view of defending one's country or one's family. It is certainly not against biblical standard to give your own life in order to let someone else survive such as in a rescue situation