If Jesus was God as he claims in the Johanine Prologue, does this mean he is his own father?

Question

Does this mean that man has killed God? How can this be if God, is one unique, and all powerful?

Answer 1

GOD is the god, the supremo of universe.
Jesus was a man. 100% normal man like you and me.
Only difference between Jesus and us is that he could understood god which we do not understand.

Jesus could understood god completely just like other great-men like, Buddha and Nanak. Jesus tried his best to explain god to us but still we do not understand. We keep on debating.

We still are in the process of describing GOD just like the six blind men described an elephant.

Answer 2

If you look carefully the answers to your question are in the Johanine prologue. However else you may wish to decribe the author of the prologue, he was careful in his theological exposition and ensured consistancy in order to combat some of the gnostic influences that abounded in his time.

First of all John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." This instructs the reader of the Gospel that there is a clear differentiation between the person of The Father and The Word - though in 1:1 ff It is very plain that "The Word was God".

So if you really wanted to reduce the theology here to immature anthropomorphisms then you might want to say that this in a sense is a trusim. However a more sophisticated approach would be to understand that Jesus as the incarnate word was born of the spirit of God but not in a carnal manner as is the case for the rest of humanity. In similar manner the author speaks of how he also gives the ability for human beings to become children of God - again born by The Spirit of God.

Man, when Christ was crucified killed God incarnate. God eternal may not be killed.

As for some here saying Jesus was not real - you are miles out of your league here. There is abundant evidence even outside of Christian writings that Jesus was real. Denial of this means either you have not looked or you have a closed mind to the evidence. You might like to say you dont believe Jesus was who Christians claim he is - fine - but no one in their right minds can claim he didn't exist.

I have a degree in Biblical Studies with Ancient History and Classical Civilisation. I am not a fundamentalist :)

Answer 3

The Johannine Prologue is an application of the Stoic doctrine of the logos to Jesus. It was written three generations after Jesus' death in a thoroughly Hellenized intellectual milieu which Jesus would have found totally incomprehensible, or even blasphemous.

Answer 4

I sometimes think of God as a multifaceted jewel. The Father is one set of sparkles. Jesus is another and the Holy Spirit is yet a third. One gem. Three aspects. So in a sense, yes, Jesus and the Father are one. And yes, in a sense, killing Jesus was killing God, even though it was Jesus' HUMAN nature that was killed, since He is 100% God AND 100% Man.

And in case you haven't noticed, that particular death didn't 'take'.

Answer 5

God the Father,
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
3 in 1

just like water
fluid
steam
ice
but still H20

Answer 6

And if he were G-d and he ascended to sit down at the right hand of the Thrown of the Father in Heaven Who is sitting on the Thrown?

Answer 7

Jesus never claimed to be God. He has always claimed to be God's Son...

Matthew 20:23: "He said to them: “YOU will indeed drink my cup, but this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.”

John 20: 17: "Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God"

Luke 22: 42: "42 saying: “Father, if you wish, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place.”

Matthew 3: 16 & 17: "After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”

John 3:16: "16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life."

John 14:28: "YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. "

John 12:49: "49 because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak. 50 Also, I know that his commandment means everlasting life. Therefore the things I speak, just as the Father has told me [them], so I speak [them].”

John 8:42: "42 Jesus said to them: “If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here. Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth. "

John 20:31: "31 But these have been written down that YOU may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God, and that, because of believing, YOU may have life by means of his name"


John 10:36: " do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?"

Matthew 16: 15-17: "He said to them: “YOU, though, who do YOU say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 In response Jesus said to him: “Happy you are, Simon son of Jo′nah, because flesh and blood did not reveal [it] to you, but my Father who is in the heavens did."

Answer 8

God is a lie. Jesus is a myth.

Answer 9

When you question the trinity, you seem foolish, 1+1+1=1, are you stupid?
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