Christians-What did Jesus ment when he said this generation shall not pass away until you see all these things

Question

fullfilled? Does Jesus mean the generation that saw Israel back in the land(1948)will be the generation that will see all the prophecies come to pass expecially seeing the return of Christ?How close do you think we are to seeing the rapture? 100 years plus or within 50? AnywayI want to hear back from Christians that can help me with what Jesus ment when he said that. Thanks

Answer 1

he was out of his face on mushroom wine. I'm amazed anyone in that room was sober enough to write his gibberings down. I think he was asking for his glass to be refilled with more wine. Do you really think anyone on here today can tell you definitively what Jesus meant by that? He possibly never even said anything of the sort. Therin lies the problem with the whole bible. its been translated, transcribed, re-written etc etc. At best it is a highly distorted version of what actually happened, maybe even mostly fiction. To try and find meaning and importance in any of its texts that relate to the modern world in any way is daft. The same goes for all other religious doctrines. At its core is this shite that if you follow it some supernatural being will solve all your earthly problems for you and give you everlasting life so you never die. If you strip it right down its that simple. The words pathetic and retarded spring to mind. Even more so when people in this day and age try to find meaning in such an ancient and blood stained tome of utter rubbish, and I'm not talking about the DaVinci Code.

Answer 2

You're right about the generation being the generation when Israel became a nation again. A biblical generation is 70 years, which gives us until 2018 for the tribulation to start. Scarry, huh?

As for the rapture, not on target there. Nowhere in the bible does it say christians will be "raptured" away before the trib, that's just wishful thinking. The "taking up" spoken of in Revelation doesn't happen until the end of the trib, right before the final wrath. The bible makes it clear He comes back once, not twice, which would be necessary in order to have a pretrib rapture. There would be no point in taking us before the trib, then doing it again later, not to mention, it won't be like the Left Behind books, people won't suddenly believe because their families got raptured away. In reality, those people would rather believe we were taken away by aliens. So yeah, it will be us getting beheaded, which makes me believe it will be an islamic leader, since they seem to enjoy beheading. The whole rapture thing started because of some fool misinterpreting Christ telling the disciples telling them He'd be with them. They interpreted as meaning they wouldn't suffer, hence being raptured away. What it meant was that He'd be with them, even while they were all murdered in the hideous ways most of the disciples were actually murdered. It didn't mean He would protect them from suffering, but that they wouldn't be alone, He'd be with them. Therefore, I don't see why we'd be more deserving to be safe from suffering than His disciples.

Answer 3

Yes, I think you are right, although I am not sure if the 1948 date or the 1967 date is the generation date. The 1948 date really doesn't work so well. Also, a generation is either the 40 or 70, I believe it to be 70. We can only be ready by the signs that Jesus told us about to watch for, outside of that, Jesus said that only the Father knows the time. So, trying to get a date is not a good idea. However, I think many in the world today will be alive to see the rapture happen and the go through the tribulation, then the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Israel captured 1/2 of Jerusalem in 1948, but by the end of the 6 six day war in 1967, they capture the entire city of Jerusalem, thus, I believe Israel with her capitol Jerusalem, God's holy city, would be more accurate as a full return in 1967.

For 1948 @ 70 year generation the approx time line would be 2018 2nd coming, minus 7 years tribulation prerapture, making approx timeline 2011 or before rapture. 70 year generation could be anytime now

For 1967 @ 70 year generation the approx time line would be 2037 2nd coming, minus 7 year tribulation prerapture, making approx timeline 2030 or before rapture. 70 year generation Rapture could be anytime now.


For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: We spend our years as a tale that is told. The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off and we fly away. -Psalm 90:9,10

If 70 to 80 years still represents the length of a generation, as described in Psalm 90:9,10, one would expect the life span of those living today to be close to that figure. The life expectancy of those living in the United States in 1850 was less than 40 years but increased to 47 years by 1900 and then mushroomed to 77 years (1999) by the end of the 20th century. 2 According to the 2002 World Almanac and Book of Facts, the average life expectancy in the United States is 77 years (74 years for males and 80 years for females). For Israel it is 79 years (77 years for males and 81 years for females). The average life expectancy at birth for Israel is projected to be 82 in the year 2025

Answer 4

There are so many different versions of this I know he was talking to his disciples before he was captured and he had told them the things they would be doing (like peter denying him) People desperately try to fashion these sayings into the here and now and it was actually there and then, I have lived in rapture since the day i was born something not of my choice. But the conquest is how the devil trys repeatedly to make me deny god. Christ returns to me daily telling me this or that. He is gods spokesperson. I would like to be fancy with a great theological explanation but everyday survival has made me hideous and I still cant hide because my lips move for the lord and someone out there needs to hear his words, I tried being political about it but I am not the one in control.So instead of having some opinion of our war, and our economy, drug abuse, alcoholism,and general media related information that stirs up and disturbs, all goes into one category idolatry, people sit at all these different idol alters and worship things other than the father that put them here. and that was not what he wanted. So don't you think he weeps over the loss of every one of his children. Not just the ones who follow him but the ones he created that live harder like as if with no clue.....

Answer 5

Jesus admited later on that he didn't know the time and hour of the end. There could be two posibilities:
a) As a member of his generation, Jesus might've believed that the end was at hand (same St. Paul), although unlike the rest of his generation Jesus didn't tied the end up to the restoration of Israel as a political entity. Jesus was more global minded in that sense.
b) Or, it the gospel writers might've put in Jesus' lips a widely accepted hope in the early Christian communities. For them, the fall of Jerusalem to the Roman army meant the end, and Jesus' generation witnessed that first hand.

Answer 6

The idea that Jesus was talking about the 1948 return of Israel is a preunderstanding based on dispensationalism. Jesus was talking to THAT generation of people (the people in the text) about the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Dispensationalism has to have a nation of Israel in the end times because they believe that God has two people, the church and the nation of Israel, instead of seeing God's plan and purpose for the ages as His dealings with ONE people, beginning in Israel and opening to the Gentiles through Jesus Christ the Messiah.

Answer 7

He meant THAT generation.

Luke 9:27 “What I’m about to tell you is true. Some who are standing here will not die before they see God’s kingdom.”
Matthew 16:28 “What I’m about to tell you is true. Some who are standing here will not die before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”


The "kingdom" seems to refer to the church. That means that Jesus is reigning on earth RIGHT NOW in the lives of Christians - (fulfilling the FIGURATIVE PROPHECY in Revelation.) The kingdom seems to have never been an earth based one, but a heavenly, spiritual one. Those looking for it back on earth in physical form may be too much like the Jews of his day. They had THEIR OWN ideas about the kingdom and rejected the TRUE KINGDOM.

... It is a point of view which will not endear you to those steeped in today's pop-theology, but it does seem to fit the clear language of passages like 2Peter 3:9ff much better than the popular view.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar. Fire will destroy everything in them. God will judge the earth and everything in it. 11 So everything will be destroyed. And what kind of people should you be? You should lead holy and godly lives. 12 Live like that as you look forward to the day of God. It will make the day come more quickly. On that day fire will destroy the heavens. Its heat will melt everything in them.

Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an end to the Law with all its commands and rules. He wanted to CREATE ONE NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE OUT OF THE TWO. He wanted to make peace between them.

... Israel is no longer God's "chosen people." That status ended when the promise to Abraham was fulfilled in Christ. NOW, the CHURCH is God's "chosen people" and the kingdom of Christ.

Answer 8

I am not sure what Christ may have meant; I like your question and I will do some research, but I think the rapture may come sooner than we want it. When I read Revelations, I realize a lot of those things have happened and will continue until we as a people accept Christ into our lives.

Answer 9

Another and perhaps more accurate translation is "race." But generally, most people consider the generation in question to be the generation of Jews who saw the fig tree planted--that is, Israel becoming a nation again. Which it did in 1948.

Answer 10

Many Biblical scholars believe the entire passage is allegorical and refers to the destruction of Jerusalem which happened roughly 70 years later. It also refers to the ultimate fall of the roman empire.