What is going on in Arizona?

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Woo hoo! I tried 3 questions in 25 minutes and none showed up until this one. Why didn't they let this one go through?-

Arizona legislature responds to failed anti-Minutemen bill?
Recently some pros in the Arizona legislature tried to pass a bill that would have designated the Minutemen as domestic terrorists. It was voted down by a wide margin.

Now, Arizona's Republicans are responding with a domestic terrorism bill of their own -- "A group of conservative Republican state lawmakers want to classify as domestic terrorists protesting illegal immigrants who "intimidate" or "threaten" U.S. citizens.

The GOP bill would also classify members of Mexican or other foreign criminal gangs or drug cartels as domestic terrorists and classify violations as felonies."

So, what do you think are the chances of its passing?

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Patois, I understand your concern with SPP and share it. However, if you have any information that the Minutemen are at all about 'racial purity' please give us a link. They do background checks of members to make sure they aren't in hate groups, as I understand it.

kobecker, I agree.

Answer 1

The measure defines domestic terrorists as persons who are illegally in the U.S. and are part of criminal enterprises as well as protesters whose actions intimidate, threaten or cause physical harm to legal citizens.

Sponsors include Republican legislative leaders -- state Senate President Tim Bee, House Speaker Jim Weiers, House Majority Leader Tom Boone and Senate Majority Leader Thayer Verschoor -- and conservative activists such as state Reps. Russell Pearce, Trish Groe and Eddie Farnsworth and state Sen. Ron Gould.

The measure comes on the heels of a measure forwarded by state Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, which looked to classify the anti-immigration Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteer group and other armed vigilantes as domestic terrorists. That bill was shot down by the Republican-controlled Legislature.

Everyday I gain more pride in my state of Arizona and its commonsense,no nonsense
people.I hope it passes and I hope it takes root all over this nation.The time has come to remember who's country this is.It belongs to..... "We The People"

Senator Ron Gould was my next door neighbor for 4 years.Good man.

Answer 2

Anyone promoting racism, intolerance and violence to the point of bringing war to American soil is not a real American in spirit and ultimately will be crushed. Racism is a mental disease that is being tolerated as a distraction. But, ultimately, Mexico and the U.S. are blending into the new Superstate with Canada and big business and big contracts will, under no circumstances, be allowed to be endangered or interfered with by morons with peashooters in the desert. Arizona's economy will crash over this. Who in their right mind wants to live around racists or war or bring their business there? I have a friend in Hong Kong who told me yesterday that Arizona and the moronic Minutemen are being discussed by businessmen and women in Asia as a new "hot zone" in the world to avoid. "Oh! Oh! Let's take the children, Herold, and spend our vacation in sunny Arizona! Maybe we'll get to see some of those low-grade nuclear weapons everyone's talking about that the Minutemen heeeeeeros are going to use to SAVE us from the illeeeeeeegals." Hopefully, the economic wasteland that Arizona becomes will serve as an example for how NOT to approach this problem. (If the Minutemen heeeeeros act out their morbid dreams of racial purity, I'm going want one of the collector postcards of a U.S. Army tank rolling down the street in front of the Arizona capitol building. I actually collect such postcards of humanity's most stupid historical moments.)

Answer 3

Before you start waving the flag thinking all is good in the ole' USA . I would read the fine print . Being loose about classifying people as terrorists could be a dangerous thing .

Answer 4

You are one of the many states that have new "terrorist identification" acts being passed. The police are being notified to be on the lookout for people that fit their bill of descriptions. Other states describe terrorists as people that wear Levi jeans, reference the Constitution and so forth.

I along with many others think this is bullsiht, but remember our Constitution and Bill of Rights are being dismantled by the Bush administration all in the name of our "safety."

Sadly, it just gets worse from here on out. After we pull a "Gulf of Tonkin" on Iran and nuke them(because they pose such a threat, since they can't go nuclear, weapons wise till 2015), then WW3. After that, the draft for more people to be sent to their deaths, and martial law takes into effect. After all that, a one world government will rise and bring tyranny to us all.

End of America land of the free, and more like the beginning of America land of fascism.

Answer 5

Even if it passes, it solves absolutely nothing. People in power giving its voters what they want to hear instead of anything with substance that would actually make a difference. I'm down with the felony stick though. The word terrorism needs to be dropped.

Answer 6

The odds of passing are 50-50, but the governor will veto it.

Answer 7

The bill as I understand it has a 65% of being passed. All I can say is good luck Ariz.

Answer 8

Let's hope it does pass, but I'm sure that there will be some unloyal citizens who will try to strike down this very necessary bill.
Let the thumbs down begin.

Answer 9

I don't know what its chances are, but I hope it passes. It's about time lawmakers somewhere did something about the problem besides watching it get worse!

Answer 10

Arizona? They are going to host Super Bowl XLII...wooo hooo!!!