Would women hinder infantry units if able to join?

Question

When it all comes down to it, all military Moss’s are infantry when put in the field? Yet women are not allowed to join the Infantry Moss’s. Do you feel women would hinder the Infantry units if they were able to join? Do you feel women should have the right to join the infantry if they wish to? What are your thoughts on this matter?

i had a typo with moss's
it's MOS's

Answer 1

I think if they can pass the same physical standards (not the watered-down women's standards) as the men in the unit, then yes they should be allowed to join. It is a matter of life and death sometimes and we shouldn't let political correctness hinder a unit's ability to complete a mission.

Answer 2

this is a case by case basis. I believe some women would not hinder infantry units, but most would. A combat load for an infantryman can be 80 lbs or more. How many women do you think can carry 80 plus pounds of equipment on a 15 mile hike, and still be able to fight (possibly even hand to hand combat). I believe some can but not enough to change the restriction on them in combat units. Plus there is a hygiene issue if they are in the field (no showers or proper facilities of any kind) for months at a time.

Answer 3

I don't think it's a matter of ability or reaction rate. There is an issue of hygeine, being that the Army regulations state that the needs of women to shower in the field is every 2 days to a man's every 10 days. In a combat situation, this could be important to a soldier's health. But I have a different take based on experience to point out. My husband's first unit was a combat arms unit (women are not only disallowed in infantry, but in all combat arms units) The culture and comarraderie of the unit was unlike anything we have experienced in service support units (that always have both men and women.) The men in combat arms were brothers. They genuinely cared about one another. They spent off duty hours together fishing or bar-b-q'ing, or with tailgait parties. About one night a month, they went out on the town together to do have a drink and come home late. They didn't just work together, they lived together and they trusted each other. As a result, the wives were also very close. When the men went out, so did the ladies. We were a tight-knit group and we loved each other. We looked out for each other too. It was the picture of a community, and we all had each others backs, on the field and off. The lack of women allowed the men to form close relationships that just aren't formed when they have to be careful of what they say in the presence of female soldiers (let's face it. soldier's humor can tend to be crude) or when they can't be alone in a room with a woman for fear of a sexual harassment claim (bogus and retaliatory claims happen). Once he began serving in service support, there has been almost no sense of commuity unless it was in response to fears of deployment, and then everyone was in crisis. In 15 years, we have never had a single service support unit that has played together. The male and female soldiers do their jobs and go home. The spouses rarely speak. Unit sponsored activities are poorly attended, and those who do attend don't know each other. I miss the closeness that combat units have. There may be other reasons for the difference in culture between the two, but certainly, the lack of women allows the guys to be guys without fear of reprisal. When they go to the field, they are invested in each other. The guy beside you isn't just someone from your unit, it's your friend and someone whose well-being matters to you. It's completely different, and I'm not sure if you can understand how remarkable the difference is unless you experience it.

Answer 4

This has been a debate that has gone on for as long as I've been in the Army and I'm sure much longer. I personally don't think women should be Infantry. Nothing against women at all. I've served w/ women both overseas and at home. They have been great. But Infantry? Not so much. Being Infantry, we are may out in the field days, weeks at a time w/ no way to clean ourselves. I know in Iraq, we were on a mission to clear a town that took 5 weeks. We went five weeks w/o a shower and anyway to clean ourselves. Women need to be able to clean themselves. Esp. during their periods. It would be a prev. med. nightmare.

Answer 5

I would have to say no. I have seen women who can out PT male soilders and who do an extrodinary job in there MOS. But there are cons, putting infantry soilders with female soilders would raise some isuess because an infantry mans life is filled with sitting on OP or at a patrol base, having a female there would create a distraction from the job at hand, also when males and females mix fornication is gonna happen. It happens anyways at the main FOBs were most females are. Now I know there are the strong type females out there. I have no problem with females in the army, but as frontline troops. No they houldn't be there.

Answer 6

There is a proven biomechanical health issue with women in the infantry. The structure of the pelvis differs from men to women. In its biomechanical function, a woman's pelvis is designed to be frontal weight bearing for pregnancy while a male's is substantially different. Thusly, a woman's pevis can withstand the rigors of weight bearing during pregnance while a man who gains the equitable amount of weight aka a pot belly suffers health issues like back problems and early hip socket degeneration.

Since a man's pelvis can bear more weight carried on the shoulders and back, the Infantry load and weight requirements better suit the male frame and pelvis. Women who undergo rigorous military training over long periods (13 weeks or longer) and have to carry an infantry similar load in a ruck sack often experience hairline fractures of the pelvis. With newer equipment and the dispersion of load across the body this may be alleviated however, any injury to an infantry soldier fighting on the front is called a combat divider.

It takes three infantry soldiers to care for one injured soldier in battle or on the line. Thusly you lose 4 soldiers for 1 injury. Given the propensity for hip injuries and the likelihood of inadequate front line replacement troops, the risks of female infantry soldiers is too great as a combat divider on the hip fracture point alone.

I served as did my wife (career) and have the utmost respect for women in the military and knew quite a few who could kick my butt. And I was a door gunner and paratrooper. However the infantry is so demanding in both leadership challenges and in maintaining 100% health from injuries that to expose it to this unnecessary risk wouldn't be prudent.

Answer 7

I have no problem with women joining all units of the armed forces so long as they pass all the same requirements. This is not the case today as women's PT requirements are less demanding than the mens. the women have already proven the have the guts all that is needed now is to make sure they can physically do the job. The women have shown in Iraq and other regions that they have what it takes including dying.

Answer 8

merely ask the thousands human beings combating adult adult males who had their lives stored via women individuals manning 50 high quality gadget weapons atop a Humvee in Iraq. Or ask the girls individuals who've won Bronze Stars with the V gadget or people who've won the Silver movie star in Iraq. My daughter is an Air stress wrestle digicam individual assigned to Air stress specific Operations workers in Afghanistan. merely ask the Sp Ops human beings how they felt whilst she picked up an M-sixteen, positioned down her digicam and started protecting their place against a adversarial stress. human beings adversarial to women individuals interior the Infantry have by no potential served interior the Infantry, or are afraid that their masculinity might some how be broken.

Answer 9

Here's the deal. They won't let women into the infantry units because they think they are too slow reacting and they might tempt the men into not doing the right thing. So, I think that it's just bogus that they do that. I for one think that we should stand up to that and have it an equal opportunity for both men and women.

Answer 10

Uh, it all depends. Studies show that women are more likely to suffer PTSD than men. Women want equality this and equality that, but when it comes down to it there are big phisiological differences between us. I think it is obvious that women could perform along side men in combat, we don't need to prove it for equality. Women create life and evolution has not developed the female of our species for close combat. Also, if women are taken as POWs there is a much higher potential for sexual assults to occur than with men. It doesnt offend me, I am thankful for the men and women who serve. Just like in WWII, it wasnt only about our ground forces that won that war - women went to work and our manufacturing power sealed our victory.