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I consider the controversies in interpretations of predestination and free will are caused by positions taken by the writers or apostles of the epistles and letters to Churches or individual believers. Supposed, the Bible is now consisting of the full OT but NT with only the four gospels and perhaps the Acts and Revelation, will this arrangement help to eliminate or close up the stands of those who support predestination and reject free will in every life? However, the value and messages and advices in the epitles written for the believers can be retained as guide book.

As I see, the epitles writters are greatly honoured by what they have written than those written for Jesus. Jesus has said that the Master is always higher than the pupils or disciples. And so the teachings of Jesus should always be primary reference for our faith and understanding of God's will. Jesus said the Holy Spirit will show believers (everyone) the truth. Even God wants all eyes to be on Jesus alone.

2007-02-09 05:39:19 · 14 answers · asked by Ptuan 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I believe there is only one way that the writers of Scripture wrote, and that is from a predestination standpoint, otherwise there would be no mention of it whatsoever in the Bible. Reducing the Bible to a few books will not resolve this issue.

2007-02-09 08:58:11 · answer #1 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0 0

God did not tell you he wants every eye on Jesus when you better believe All eyes better praise and worship Allah alone and not be bothering his Prophet Jesus (pbuh)!
Now! the NT is all messed up really have you read a bunch of folks just telling one story and Paul being eccentric and just making stuff up and doing what he wants now dig this Paul created Christianity not the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) now should this thing be called Paultrian not Christian?!? and no one as of yet has thought about this very simple fact that this is Paul's thing and
whom he claimed to speak for ain't have nothing to do with the mess that Paul started! and its all been written many years after Christ was no where to be found and Christ ain't tell them he was god now imagine that! the new testaments is a hot mess! and i bet most of these folks didn't know this but i shall share this with them just for knowledge from a wise one-
the first to interpret the bible into English was assassinated now figure that out also king James was not the first king James to order that the book was translated his father was first and there too was another man before these men also translated the bible to English and each and every one of them translated wrong so imagine that!
Now to answer your questions! they know not the religion they claim not one thing of it and the new testament is convenient for them and they dare not have no regulations to follow they would run and hate structure in there lives I don't speak on anything except what i see daily around me!
also how can one part of a great book be ruled out and the other part be proper not that's not possible yet they do this -Imagine that !

2007-02-09 06:01:01 · answer #2 · answered by wise 5 · 0 1

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2007-02-09 08:26:44 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Neither issue affects the Salvation of any one. They will remain debateable issues among even those of The True Christian Faith untill God clears it up. No such issue should be carried to the point of being devisive among The Body of The Church... if it is a divisive issue then those participating in the division, on both sides, are in a state of sin. The individuals involved in division need to go to God and ask forgivness. Then get back to The Business of The Church which is spreading The Good News of The Salvation Message.

2007-02-09 05:47:35 · answer #4 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 1 0

The whole problem is a straw man. The difficulty arises from man's lack of understanding about what it really means for God to be omniscient.

It's like this. Example: I know that Sunday morning there will be Mass. I know too that most of my fellows will be there. I probably will be there as well unless something prevents me.
NONE of the above means that any of my fellow parishioners will actually show up.

What I know to be true and what they do are two different things, even when they look the same. I have NO way of coercing them to show. That's their free will choice. BUT, I know these people very well. I know their habits, their past actions and so I know pretty well what they will be doing come Sunday.

Now God knows even better than me what they're gonna be doing. But He, no more than I, coerces them into doing or not doing it.

Predestination theories negate that basic difference. They seem to think that His knowing is the same as His commanding. Tain't so, McGee.

2007-02-09 05:47:50 · answer #5 · answered by Granny Annie 6 · 1 0

Both issues are very tough to be solved, even with the elimination of the epistles (which allow us to see how some of Jesus' early disciples understood Christianity). Paul for example throughly educated in theology.

Anyway, there are likely to always be different views. To begin with one must define free will; is it deterministic or indeterministic? In my opinion it is a necessity that humans have some measure of free will in order to have a significant decision in following Christ. The choice to accept is, however, the only human action, salvation itself is given by God.

Concerning predestination, Christian tradition affirms that God is omnicent (knows all things or knows all truth propositions - however, there are even debates on this definition). God's knowledge must be reconciled with free will for those who affirm it (e.g. if God knows something is going to happen, must it happen?). There are several ways to deal with the tension between omnicence and free will, but they are too long to discuss here. Hope this helps.

2007-02-09 06:54:24 · answer #6 · answered by whoppie_jr 2 · 1 0

God has a plan for each and every one of us. However, every person that has ever lived has had total and complete free will. It's up to you to choose God's plan or not. You can follow Him, or you can walk away at any moment. This concept is illustrated over and over and over throughout the Bible. I don't understand why it's such a big "mystery."

The only controversy on this issue is from people who don't read what is clearly stated in the Bible.

2007-02-09 05:44:39 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

In Job it saws that GOD placed a SEAL on the HAND of man so that all men may know of his work,after my wife told me she didn't love me anymore a red mark came over my entire heart line of my right palm,turned into a callus,took years to scrap off with my fingernails,I looked into palmistry, its true. every single line means something.I have proven it.I can now read palms.some people as I am telling them about what their lines indicate will sometimes pull their hand away with shock that I just told them something so real about their past.& then some dont want to know their future, but we can change it I believe,we decide what our lifes or going to be like.with Gods help.& thru the holy spirit of Gods guidance.

2007-02-09 05:49:05 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I believe in both, and that if given enough of a chance, when we see the full story, we will ALL be predestined for salvation, because we are ALL designed to choose heaven over hell.

2007-02-09 05:43:51 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Why would u even believe a fable that was written so long ago in the first place

2007-02-09 05:43:34 · answer #10 · answered by Zoomba 2 · 0 1

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