Honestly who do you think gets to say whos christian or not people who have believed since 33a.d. or followers

Question

of a heretic... look back into history and then see all those gnostics who claimed to be the true christians what makes you any different... just because you interpret the bible in your own way how do you think the bible got to you ... how do you know since the church is evil didn't just make up the bible... you might say that the Holy Spirit lead it through the evil but how do you know it was not just all made up? ... sorry for the random rant but honestly who are you to tell someone theyre not christian just because your christian just because you dislike their way of belief all you go around saying a christian is one who beliefs an accepts in Jesus... that's exactly what we catholics do... just because you learned to hate us doesn't mean you have to continue ... just please don't go around calling us non-christian because that is just stupidity.

Answer 1

Sorry, any organization that officially protects pedophile priests and allows them continuing access to children within it's organization is not Christian, regardless of how many other forms of Christianity it claims. Any person who supports and funds this organization is acting in a non-Christian manner, no matter how many crosses they carry or prayers they say.

The Catholic church has had many opportunities to make this right. It chooses not to. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

Answer 2

I think the saying is "might makes right." That was what happened in the case of the Gnostics anyway. The Church was simply much better organized and had more power. The Gnostics must have been quite a threat to the Church, though, to cause the retaliation they did. The Gnostics believed that it was better to die for God, than to kill for God, the exact opposite of the Paulines. The Gnostics didn't stand a chance against them. The Church thought they had wiped the Gnostics off the face of the earth, but of course, the Gnostics got the last laugh in 1945 when it was discovered that God had preserved the Gnostic tradition in the Egyptian sands. I am not sure if you meant to bad mouth the Gnostics or not in your question, but you should realize that if you did you are being a hypocrite.

BTW: I have read that book "The Case for Christ" and you can waste your time if you want. The book is extremely biased and lopsided. The author intentionally seeks out scholars with a certain point of view. He never speaks to scholars who are critical of his position. And It is not because there are not any available, there are plenty. He always asks the questions that always seems to get the answer he is seeking. He doesn't ask any hard questions and never challenges anything the scholars have to say. It is one of the most unbalanced and biased books on the subject I have ever read, it is a total joke.

Answer 3

Don't let anyone tell you you're not a Christian. But also know that a True Gnostic would never claim such things. This is more the work of people infatuated with Gnostic thought.
just to set the record straight Gnostic Christianity reached it's peak in the second century alongside the growth of gospel popularity. In the late third century this became problematic for Rome, so in a 'can't beat em, join em' fashion they created their own Christianity and made it Orthodox. So technically Gnostic Christianity came first. Peter did establish a Church in Rome in the first century, but sadly, it was squashed and Peter along with it. Rome ignored Christianity for 300 years which means for 300 years there was no new testament, no trinity, just Jesus and his message. Non of this means you're not a Christian though.

Answer 4

Somebody called Catholics non-Christian? That's just plain ridiculous. Catholics are 1 of the 4 main historical branches of Christianity (not counting the various American sects) - Roman, Byzantine, Greek, Russian. Catholics are the Roman branch; every other sect in Europe is derived from there, Anglicans, Lutherans, etc. are all derived from the Roman Church. The main underlying assumption in all the sects though is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and he walked the earth as a man about 2000 years ago. You're always going to find different sects who criticise Catholics for not being fervent enough or for not being quick enough to adopt social change; can't really be helped, Catholics are a different organisation that folow therir own speed limit. I think the main criticism from the right-wing orthodox churches is that Catholics are not fervent enough, they don't truly belive any more and consort with non-Catholics, etc. You know what, I think that's a good thing, I am in fact proud to say that Catholics don't wear blinders, they recognise differing points of view, especially in the last 50 years or so. Yes, we're not as into social change as say Anglicans or Episcopolians, but that's OK, if you're buying a new electronic gizmo you'd wait for feedback from other people who have it first, you usually wouldn't want to be the very first and experience all the flaws.
Catholics are cool. They know what's going on.

Answer 5

Some evangelical Protestants (mostly the mega-church Calvary Chapel type) are very anti-Catholic. I (as a Catholic CHRISTIAN) have encountered the same thing that you have indicated. Many Protestants don't even consider Catholics to be Christian. These people are naive and don't know the truth. The truth being that, until the 16th Century, the Catholic Church was the Christian Church, with the exception of the Eastern Rite (Orthodox) Church, which split from the Catholic Church in the 10th Century.

Another truth is the fact that it was the Council of Nicea that created the Nicene Creed (aka Apostles' Creed), so a Catholic council created a creed that even most Protestant churches recite in one form or another.

Finally, it was the Catholic Church that actually determined which books were to be canon for the Bible in the 4th Century.

Pray for these misguided Protestants who are ignorant to history. They, despite their separation from the Catholic Church, are still brothers and sisters in Christ.

A good Catholic apologetic website is Catholic.com. The next time a non-Catholic Christian gives you a hard time, check it out! Also, pray for these lost Christians who, for whatever reason, have separated from our Catholic Church, the only Christian church that can trace its roots directly to our Lord Jesus Christ Himself! (Mt 16:18)

Answer 6

a blvr: You might not have heard many in your congregation say that Catholics are not saved, but fundamentalists say it here all the time. One guy just told us all that Catholics are a cult and that they practice deceptive non-biblical teaching.

Mormon's also get painted with the not-a-Christian brush. In fact, as I'm sure you understand, not-a-Christian means the same as atheist to these people. So Catholics and Mormons, to many of these fundamentalists are not just not Christian, they are atheists.

One guy just a few minutes ago talked about Mormons not having "the right" to call themselves Christian. How bizarre is that? That some people have "the right" to call themselves Christian and some don't? I wonder what Jesus would think of that.

Answer 7

I too have done all that research. I have asked those questions. And, finally after a lifetime of 63 years, this is what I have to say.

Stick to the actual words of Jesus. And then do what Jesus asked us to do for proof. Ask the Holy Spirit to witness to you whether or not you are going to Heaven if you follow Jesus.

Follow Jesus? "That was the original meaning of being a Christian. These days every Church seems to have their own interpretation of what that means. - Stick with the actual words of Jesus. (The Bible has about 100 verses of his actual words.)

Answer 8

The truth is what makes a person Christian, what you believe and what you do because of your beliefs. The truth is what differentiates followers of Christ from those who don't follow him. Many people say that they are Christian and don't do what a Christian does. Saying you're Catholic, or Baptist, or Orthodox is dividing yourself from other Christians. There is not supposed to be any division in the body. Practicing witchcraft is an abomination to God. The religious people of Jesus day got to hear what he thought about believers who oppose God. He got murdered for it. We have to stand up to people who don't act like Christians who say they are believers.

Answer 9

I would not call you non christian because you are a Catholic, even though I do not subscribe to many beliefs of the catholic church. I think Christian is a very broad term used to describe any Gentile that believes Christ was on earth as the Son of God

Answer 10

Catholics are most certainly Christians. I am a Baptist and have heard a few people say Catholics are not saved. That's a very dangerous and ignorant statement. I'm sorry you had to hear that.
May the Lord richly bless you.