Christians claim that Jesus saved them by his death on the cross... but actually the one who died is the human side of Jesus not the God side (God doesn't die)... So you believe that you are saved by a man... while bible states that there is no savior beside God.
2007-02-08 07:51:11 · 20 answers · asked by Kimo 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Isa 43:11 I even I am the LORD; and beside, me there is no savior.
Hos 13:4 There is no savior beside me.
2007-02-08 07:51:39 · update #1
djmantx
As for the first part of your question, let me remind you again of Eze 18:20 and 2Ch 25:4
As for the second part : Christians don't say Father saved us be sending Jesus .. but they say Jesus saved us.
2007-02-08 08:06:58 · update #2
Dixie
The man side of Jesus had an independant free will .. which some times contradicted the will of God "nevertheless not as I will"
2007-02-08 08:09:31 · update #3
Kimo...who sinned man or God? yes it was the flesh that was killed not God he sacrificed flesh for flesh it is the flesh that sinned and it is the flesh that was cursed by sin. The law requires death of the flesh and the law was fulfilled when that price was paid. Now you are trying to say the it was his flesh that's saved us no God saved man by sacrificing his flesh for yours. Edit Your confusion is the trinity. Jesus is God. It is the same whether you say I am saved by the grace of God or I am saved by Jesus...or saved by the Holy Ghost...The Father,Son and Holy Spirit are one God. Edit about the man side of Christ contradicting the God side...Christ was in the flesh as such had to overcome his flesh and was in submission to the Father the true God teaches the flesh is ot be in submission to the spirit.
2007-02-08 07:58:53 · answer #1 · answered by djmantx 7 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Christians believe that we are saved by God who took on humanity in order to die on the cross for us. You are right to say that God cannot die. But the human flesh that God took up is another thing altogether. Jesus as God did not die, but Jesus as man did. In His humanity Jesus went through the experience of human life and death. In His deity Jesus is the eternal God (second person of the triune godhead) who upholds all of creationand is the source of all life. Difficult to grasp? It sure is! And this testifies to the divine origins of this teaching. For mere human concoction would simply declares that such a thing is impossible. Humanistic religions would make religion conform to his own limited understanding, and make human reason the judge of what's true or false. And Islam fits this, because it rejects what the Bible teaches because it cannot reason out how Jesus can be both God and man. It is a paradox, not a contradiction. So true Christians hold both truths in tension, without going to either extremes.
2007-02-11 21:59:31 · answer #2 · answered by Seraph 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No one is ever good enough on their own. Jesus died and was the only one; without sin. Through faith in Jesus; you too can be saved. He took your place so you can live. And have a future in Heaven and on Earth. Without Christ= Jesus; you have no way of understanding what kind of life you would have. Or deserve to have. Faith, Hope and Love. Without these life isn't worth living. Jesus came that we could live. You have a choice and no one can make it for you. This isn't fairytale material. The Bible was written by men; but, inspired by God. God blessed this and that is why the book has lasted through the ages. We can never understand all there is til you start learning to walk in a new life. Good luck. I'll be praying for you. Yes, I believe. Jesus is alive.Jesus is the way, truth, and life.
2007-02-08 16:15:25 · answer #3 · answered by Joyce E 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The bodily taking up of Jesus into the heavens to be at the right hand of God the Father. The account of Jesus' ascension is record by Luke in Acts 1:4-11.
Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1,14). He is fully God and fully man (Col. 2:9) thus, He has two natures: God and man. He is not half God and half man. He is 100% God and 100% man. He never lost his divinity. He existed in the form of God and when He became a man, He added human nature to Himself (Phil. 2:5-11).
Therefore, there is a "union in one person of a full human nature and a full divine nature." Right now in heaven there is a man, Jesus, who is Mediator between us and God the Father (1 Tim. 2:5). Jesus is our advocate with the Father (1 John 2:1). He is our Savior (Titus 2:13). He is our Lord (Rom. 10:9-10).
2007-02-08 15:56:38 · answer #4 · answered by Jo 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Were saved by our faith in the first begotten Son of God. Who was a man. "The son of man" Jesus Christ was no different physically from any of us. He is just like us, that's why he said, "You can do all these things and more"- When he speaking about his own miracles. That's why Christians follow Christ. To be like him. God gave all of us the same measure of faith. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Prime example of our faith. So Jesus is a man, but he is God's son and Jesus lived his life according to God's will. God made the sacrifice of his son and Jesus was obedient to his father. So God utimatley made the sacrifice and he saved us through Christ for those that believe. Read about Abraham's first son and the sacrifice God asked of him. That was a test, Abraham was willing so God would do it for all of humanity.
2007-02-08 16:03:07 · answer #5 · answered by Just_A_Bill 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Exactly. Only a human could pay the penalty for human sin, but only God was perfect enough to make a perfect sinless sacrifice. Hence the need for the God/Man Jesus.
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"The man side of Jesus had an independent free will .. which some times contradicted the will of God 'nevertheless not as I will' "
You are correct; it is long been a central Christian belief that Jesus had both a human spirit and a divine spirit without compromising or corrupting either one.
What is your point?
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The most comprehensive confession of the Person of Christ was made at the Council of Chalcedon in 451:
“ Following the holy Fathers, we unanimously teach and confess one and the same Son, our Lord Jesus Christ: the same perfect in divinity and perfect in humanity, the same truly God and truly man, composed of rational soul and body; consubstantial with the Father as to his divinity and consubstantial with us as to his humanity; "like us in all things but sin." He was begotten from the Father before all ages as to his divinity and in these last days, for us and for our salvation, was born as to his humanity of the virgin Mary, the Mother of God.
We confess that one and the same Christ, Lord, and only-begotten Son, is to be acknowledged in two natures without confusion, change, division, or separation. The distinction between natures was never abolished by their union, but rather the character proper to each of the two natures was preserved as they came together in one person (prosopon) and one hypostasis."
2007-02-08 16:00:32 · answer #6 · answered by Randy G 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus said no man can come to the father unless they come through me so that in itself explains that we had to go through Jesus to get to the Father since we know that God doesnt die we would have to have been saved by the human side since the first fall was by human(adam)Jesus had to be perfect and sinless to be able to die and save us by grace
2007-02-08 16:07:07 · answer #7 · answered by loveChrist 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
We are saved by the blood sacrifice of the son of god.Yes the body was human but the spirit and soul are the Holy union with which we were saved.Saved by Gods grace and Davine mercy.
2007-02-08 16:03:20 · answer #8 · answered by Dixie 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus had to be in human form to become the eternal sacrifice.
But when you feel God’s love and comfort there is no question in your mind that what you feel is real and from God.
2007-02-08 15:58:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
By God: Jesus Christ.
2007-02-15 13:22:29 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋