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No matter how good you are you still go to Hell for not believing in Jesus as either God, son of God, personal savior, Yet others believe it is your deeds that get you into heaven, or hell not your belief, please explain this insanity to me?
1 Jim Bakker
2 Darlene Bishop
3 Ted Haggard
4 Kent Hovind
5 Jimmy Swaggart
6 Jim Whittington
All these guys are saved?
We with out their sin are going to Hell, if we do not believe in Jesus?
With out exception all of the above have at least 3 things in common
1.Christianity.
2.The claim that all Jews are going to Hell and burn fore ever in a lake of fire by a loving God if the refuse to except Jesus as their personal savior, as well as every one else.
3 Criminals, with criminal records of all manner of evil.
Why should I believe they are all saved, and going to heaven while others who done not half of the level of sins they did, are going to hell, can you see where I am coming from?

2007-02-08 06:42:18 · 17 answers · asked by Mijoecha 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

17 answers

If the geneologies contained in the Gospels are true, it is impossible for Jesus to have been HaMosiach anyways, so the Jews are quite safe, regardless of these hate-monger's words.

Joseph's lineage includes Jochiem, who was cursed by G-D and told that none of his descendants would ever be an annointed king (messiah).

Mary's lineage lacks Solomon, but HaMosaich must come from David's line through Solomon. Further, Mary's lineage contains names that are associated with Jochiem, which would cause even more problems.

Neither Mary nor Joseph are qualified to be the progenitors of HaMosiach.

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/

2007-02-08 06:53:51 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

well i can't speak for all of them but i am a christian and the truth is the Jews are Gods chosen people. he loves all of us though not just a few. so with that being said, there were two others on a cross on either side of Jesus when he was crucified. the two men were two of the worst sinners in the world!! there wasn't much that either of them hadn't done. murder, rape, stealing, etc..so while they were on the cross the first man looks at Jesus and says if you truely are the Son of God why don't you get get down from there and save us all? but the second man looks at Jesus and says i know you are the Son of God please remember me to your Father. so guess who is in heaven with the Lord and whos not. see no matter what you have done in your life the Lord is still forgiving up until the very end!! this is not giving us permission to go out and do whatever we want but it does mean that he loves us and only wants us to look to him and see him for who he really is!! or we can be as good as we want but if we don't turn and look and acknowledge him as our Lord and Savior, then we have missed the whole point of being here!!

2007-02-08 14:55:50 · answer #2 · answered by onyx maiden 4 · 3 1

Yes I can see where you're coming from but we need to try and take a God's eye view of things. If we use the goodness of man as our measure then we will miss the point. The word of God cautions us to exercise wisdom:


2Co 10:12
For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themseves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise. (KJV)


Goodness is a relative term that we think we understand better than God does. Our problem is that we don't really understand "good" in absolute terms as God does and we never will in this life.

It is a matter of faith that we accept that God can not accept us the way that we are. Our goodness, no matter how good it is, simply is not good enough. Our only hope therefore is that God will find a way to superimpose His goodness on us. Fortunately for us all He has, through Jesus. But the righteousness of Jesus is only available to those who accept the sacrifice that He made on the cross as an atonement for our sin.

As for the "saved 6". No one but God knows for certain whether or not your assumption is correct.

Jesus parable of the weeds (tares) sown among the wheat comes to mind (Mat 13:24-30).


Mat 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. (KJV)

2007-02-08 16:26:53 · answer #3 · answered by movedby 5 · 1 0

Perhaps you should read the bible. You need to beware of false prophets and false religions. Just because those 6 people claim to follow GOD, doesn't mean they are telling the truth. We all have sinned and we all need to repent for that. For any of us to be so bold as to say we are going to heaven is just arrogance. I believe in GOD and accept that Jesus is my lord and savior. However, I pray for my soul as well as everyone else's. The only one of us who had a guaranteed ticket into heaven, was Jesus Christ. The rest of us need to appreciate what Jesus did and try to learn from him. Don't believe everything you hear and never trust any man who isn't Jesus Christ. GOD bless us all, in Jesus's name, AMEN.

2007-02-08 14:52:05 · answer #4 · answered by cookie 6 · 2 1

Never heard of Jim Whittington, Hovind is an Independent Baptist who misinterpreted the tax code and refused to pay taxes on what he called ministerial work. Hi is serving time now for that-yes he is saved and going to heaven-no question.
All the rest are Charismatic charlatans who are hell bound.

2007-02-08 14:54:40 · answer #5 · answered by DATA DROID 4 · 3 1

If they told you otherwise then they'd be lying. That is God's Word. Say thank God that they spoke the truth even though they knew that people would do as you are doing and refer to their criminal past.

This just goes to show you of the grace of God toward us, of His love and His mercies in that God gave His only begotten Son to die on the cross at Calvary for the world so that the world,(through Him, believing on His name), might be saved. He did that for you and for me while WE WERE YET SINNERS.

Nothing else but the blood of Jesus, the Lamb slain since the foundation of the world, could wash and cleanse our sins. Why did He do that for people who sin against Him so much? Because He loves us.

When we confess our sins to God, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins AND to cleanse us from all unrighteousness...PLUS He freely gives His Holy Spirit to those that believe in Him so that we would be able to do what is right and pleasing in His sight, and overcome all evil unto the end when He will personally come and receive us to Himself.

I thank God for saving me through Jesus Christ and I pray that soon you will know Him as your personal Lord and Saviour too.

Jesus said that for anyone into enter into the kingdom of God you must be born again. Though the Jews were God's chosen people in the beginning, because of their disobedience to His Word He brought His salvation to those who would turn to Him truly from their heart. And when you are born again into the kingdom of God, He will baptize you with His Holy Spirit.

If you believe in Jesus, you will have eternal life. That is God's promise to you. Seek God, He is waiting for you.

2007-02-08 15:09:58 · answer #6 · answered by child of God 3 · 1 2

In response to:

... Yet others believe it is your deeds that get you into heaven ...

If it was based on my deeds as the option to get to heaven, then all would goto heaven and there would be no need for a personal saviour. As it is, it is not my deeds that will get me to heaven, it is the deeds of the one personal saviour that is in heaven.

In response to:

... who done not half of the level of sins they did ...

My sin not sin(s) is this ... dis-obedience. {Yet as a whole, it is considered sins. Look there is a better explanation to explain this, unfortunately the explanation would be received as condemning and that is not my intent.}

2007-02-08 15:06:50 · answer #7 · answered by אידיאליסטי™ 5 · 0 1

Plain and simple----
In John 3:7 Jesus said Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
So......YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!!
I really wouldn't judge wether or not anyone is saved. ONLY them and God know that for sure. NO ONE ELSE.

2007-02-08 15:09:18 · answer #8 · answered by JLA 2 · 1 1

Doesn't matter what any of those 6 people believe.

Does matter what God and Jesus believe on the subject. Why not try asking them about it.

2007-02-08 14:50:41 · answer #9 · answered by dewcoons 7 · 2 3

I agree with the above. There will be a time during the great tribulation when 144,000 Jews that recognize Jesus as the Messiah will go all over the world preaching the gospel, then many Jews will be saved.

2007-02-08 14:47:15 · answer #10 · answered by ? 7 · 2 6

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