I would offer you three scriptures to help you decide what is the correct interpretation of this idea.
Romans 5:13: "for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law."
John 9:41: "Jesus said, "If you were blind [tuphlos], you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.""
Isaiah 7:16: "But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste."
The first seems to indicate that if you don't know about the law it doesn't accuse you.
The second seems to indicate that if you don't understand the law it doesn't condemn you.
The third seems to say that if you aren't old enough to grasp the difference between right and wrong you aren't held accountable to the law.
Whatever the case, God is a merciful God, and He will make sure that the children have the opportunity to decide for or against Him, rather than simply condemning them out of hand.
The Bible says that John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit while still in his mother's womb. Since an unbeliever is not filled with the Spirit, John must have been saved before he was even born. Possibly infants have a grasp of God that we don't understand, and as we get older this connection fades until we renew it with our salvation.
2007-02-08 02:41:23
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi there - the answer is really very simple.
(my studies are in the original manuscripts)
First of all, this notion of "original sin" is something man came up with, not God. We do not pay for anyone else's sins but our own.
Any child, baby, or even a person who is mentally impaired, will not go to hell. To be absent from the flesh, is to be present with the Father, and thats where they are. What kind of God would throw someone in hell who didn't even have an opportunity to make the choice of whether to follow good or evil? The answer is, God wouldn't. This is a good example of why a person shouldn't listen to a pastor/priest without checking out what is said in the Scriptures. Man will deceive you, and does.
And, as a further note, when Christ returns, it will begin what is called the "Lords Day". That is a 1000 year period of teaching and disipline.
Nobody, but nobody, is going to get thrown into hell, without having the opportunity to learn truth. The judgement doesn't even occur until after that teaching period. This isn't to say that everyone has a second chance, but its just that with the tripe thats taught, God knows that many people don't have a first chance to learn truth.
So the plain answer is, they will not go to hell; and even everyone else will have the chance to avoid hell - God doesn't wish any of his Children to perish unless they have already been judged and condemned to death (I speak of satan and his 7000 Angels told of in Jude)
The reason you find no passage to refute the going to hell of these children, is because there is nothing to refute - Gods Word never said it, man did. You can take this info to the bank.
P.S. HI MAINWORRY NICE TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD !!!!!
2007-02-08 10:26:24
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answered by Anonymous
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In Romans 10:9-10 It says if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the grave, you shall be saved.
Well, a baby isn't able to do that. Even little children to a certain point aren't able to do that. When you do what Romans 10:9-10 says to do, you have to acknolowedge that you need a Savior, that you have sinned, and you can't save yourselves. Newborns don't even have the word concept let alone the understanding of sin. It is when they come to the age of understanding they are a sinner that it matters and they need to choose. The age of understanding can't be different among kids too. I knew some kids that understood at 4 and some that truely didn't understand it until 6 or 7.
I also want to add that we weren't born with orignal sin of Adam and Eve. We were born with the nature to sin because of Adam and Eve.
2007-02-08 10:24:49
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answered by cinderella9202003 4
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If you adopt a Calvinist approach to the Scriptures, the answer is quite satisfying. God's elect were chosen before the world began, and the elect will be gathered by God. The elect will not be able to resist God's grace.
In short, the whole notion of John 3:16 only applies to those God has foreordained to be saved. This means that Christ did not come to save everyone, only the elect chosen by God on whom he decided to have mercy. The five principles of Calvinism are easily remembered by the acronym, TULIP: Total depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace
Perseverance of the saints.
Hence, IF the child was one of God's chosen elect, the child, or rather the person the child would have become, will be with Christ in heaven.
How does one know if he or she is one of the elect? We don't! Instead we are urged to keep God's commandments, live righteous lives seeking to please God, and pray continuously that His mercy falls upon us as one of His elect.
Some may say that a Calvinistic theology is unfair. But the counter to this is that God will have mercy on whom He will have mercy. That is His right as the Creator of everything. "Shall the pot say to the potter, why have you made me thus?"
2007-02-09 17:12:34
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answered by Ask Mr. Religion 6
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God is a just and fair God.
God does not send people to Hell. people "volunteer" to go to Hell by rejecting God's Gift of eternal life.
a young child obviously cannot accept or reject something they cannot understand.
as they have not rejected God's Gift, the gift is giving to them.
it is much the same, in earthly terms, as a birthday present. if you are two years old and I bring you a birthday present of $20, you do not have the choice to accept or reject it. you would probably never know who gave it to you, when, why......
because you are too young.
if you are 16 yrs old, however, it is a completely different story. I am sure you can discern why.
although there is no exact verse in the Bible explaining that, there are numerous verses that declare God's special love for children and numerous others declaring God to be fair, compassionate and just.
it is not a far stretch to believing that young children that are incapable of "accepting and believeing" are not subject to that.
2007-02-08 10:28:58
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answered by Chef Bob 5
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We answered that question the other day, they will go to heaven.
2Samuel 12:23 says;
"But now he is dad; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me."
This verse tells me that David knew that his son would be in heaven with God, because someday he will see him again.
Matthew 18:3 could be taken that way;
and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
God saw an innocence in children fit for the kingdom.
Matthew 19:14 explains further;
But Jesus sid, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven."
If these verses mean nothing to you, then I cannot help you, but I know in my own heart that God has made it clear children will be saved until they become of age to rebel against him.
grace2u
2007-02-08 10:36:28
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answered by Theophilus 6
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Children are innocent . They are the closest thing to heaven,since that's where the came from. Jesus said that," unless we become as little children, we will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven."( Matt.18:3) "forbid them not to come unto me, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven" ( Matt. 19:14, Mk.10:14,Lk.18:16) "children are the heritage of the Lord," (Ps.127:3)
2007-02-08 10:35:42
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answered by jomi 4
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You have to be able to knowingly make the decision to except Jesus into your life, it's the choice that god has given you. those that die a birth are in heaven because obviously they are to young to make a choice, again at 5 yrs to young, But is 10 yrs or 12 yrs to young? Only god knows what in your thoughts and heart, He knows whether you have excepted him or not.
2007-02-08 10:26:46
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answered by Diana J 5
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Babies Sin? . . . . but babies are innocent, how can they sin or do they sin at all?
Actually, the purpose of this Sermonette is to teach us what and where Sin is. Most people think they know, but in reality. . . . they don't quite have a handle on it. So. . . . how can a baby sin anyway?
Romans 8:20
For the creature was Made Subject to Vanity ("self-centered"), Not Willingly, but by reason of Him who hath subjected the same in hope,
If we analyze the above verse, we can see that we (as creatures of the Creator) were actually Made (created, born) Subject to Vanity.
Vanity is an Older term used to convey the meaning of being "Self-Centered." Now The Eternal Creator's word says that we have No Choice in the matter ("Not Willingly"). In other words, It is Human Nature (The Nature of Unrighteousness) to be "Self-Centered," as opposed to "G_d Centered"!. . .Why?
Because "Self-centeredness" is born out of "The Instinctive Will To Physically Survive" (Survival Of The Fittest).
Additionally, we see that we have no choice in the matter. We have been "Subjected In Hope." This "Hope" is that we will choose "Good" over "Evil" or "Selflessness" over "Selfishness" according to the "Righteousness Seeking Spirit of Yahweh" (Holy Spirit).
Now, how many of us would be Willing to Die for our children or a spouse? I think that most of us would answer "I would" to this question, after all, most of us Love our children and our spouse. Now,_ How many of us would be Willing to Die for a total stranger, requiring us to put more value on a stranger's life than on our own? Well, not so many, but that is exactly what Messiah Yahshua did for us! As we can plainly see from His Selfless Sacrificial Example of True Love. However, none of us are actually being asked to die for another, BUT to become a "Living Sacrifice" instead.
for the rest of the article refer to link babies sin?
2007-02-08 11:11:07
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answered by Anonymous
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I think the answer is that it isn't adressed in the Bible, that is why you don't get answers. I believe that the people who wrote the Bible were in a society that didn't treasure children like we do today. The rule back then was to have as many kids as you could, because some of them were going to die. So kids were a lot more disposable. The bible does say that Jesus treasured the little children, but doesn't talk about their salvation. I think that the people back then just assumed that they kids went no-where when they died.
2007-02-08 10:22:02
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answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7
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