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My vision has not really deteriorated...my near-sightedness has improved, but I have horrible "floaters" in both eyes. I now must use reading glasses (store-bought variety). I'm considering Lasix in at least one eye, but would like opinions from anyone with knowledge in this area. Could it really help, or would I be taking a big gamble? Also, I've read that EDTA (oral chelation therapy) will reverse floaters...has anyone else experienced such wonderful luck? And, is it necessary to take EDTA for the rest of one's life in order for the floaters to remain gone?

2007-02-07 09:24:35 · 8 answers · asked by dottievan 2 in Health Diseases & Conditions Other - Diseases

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Well, what I'm about to say will go against what so many people believe, but I felt it is important enough to be brought to your attention. Please take a moment to read this, even though it may seem worthless to you.

I posted this elsewhere as a reply to someone's concern about presbyopia. But this can help you as well because what I'm talking has to do with someone who was able to cure serious diseases of the eye, such as cataracts, strabismus, glaucoma, and macular degeneration. Sound impossible? Mayo Clinic thinks it's impossible. Optometrists think it's impossible. It's a result of very serious misinformation going on in society, that has to do with something that occurred 80 years ago.

Take your time to read this, and please put aside personal feelings for a moment to consider all this.

Posted elsewhere:

""I've experienced vision improvement firsthand. My vision used to be L: 3/20 R: 4/20 but now I have an average vision of L: 7/20 R: 10/20, after only a month.

Go to http://www.iblindness.org/ and learn about the Bates Method. Also important: read and/or post at the forums at http://www.iblindness.org/forum/

The man behind the Bates Method was able to address macular degeneration successfully.

Many people have only seen one side of the coin, not both. They have not experienced a paradigm shift in understanding how western society has been affected by misinformation on some levels.

I tried convincing my cousin about the need to separate the mind from the body. Vision is largely a mental process. For many years, psychologists have tried to emphasize that thoughts and emotions are capable of causing MOST diseases of the body to manifest in a physical sense. There is a strong bias in the medical community that makes it favor attack-the-symptom, drug-based medicine. Since the method I'm referring to involves quite a bit of psychology, it may be dismissed by some out of hand. [Western medical] "Doctors" do not deal with psychology. Now, what if vision problems are actually a disease caused by the mind? (I have overwhelming evidence that can support this)

It may not make sense to you until you read more about it, so I strongly suggest you read up about it. There has been very clear evidence revealed in the British Medical Journal of how western scientists have distorted things, giving people the mistaken impression the scientists, including optometrists, are on top of everything--but they aren't... citation: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7404/1407 (go down to where it says "The fallacy of an assumption of simplicity" and you have one of the most convincing articles ever presented on the problems regarding the western mindset. This is a cultural thing... but this article should help you make an educated decision. It is important to distinguish how "western medicine" usually addresses the symptoms instead of the cause.)

I tried to convince my cousin of this, but his inability to "see outside the box" posed a serious problem. You may be familiar with paradigm shift of how a single image can be interpreted two different ways: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Duck-Rabbit_illusion.jpg -- this is an example of a paradigm shift viewpoint. A person may only be able to see the duck or the rabbit in that picture, while another person can see both the duck and the rabbit. I can see both the "duck and rabbit", metaphorically speaking, but my cousin can't, and neither can many people, including doctors and ODs. They are still prone to assumptions that everything they've taught has been sufficiently backed up. May be true in many cases, but for the optometrists, there is a serious problem.

I commented as I showed a few people what had gone wrong when I tried convincing my cousin: "It's too bad he thinks our scientists and optometrists are smart enough to find out whatever has gone wrong, although I gave him direct evidence indicating otherwise (Helmholtz's Theory of Accommodation reference at Wikipedia, for example). This should've been a "hint" to him that scientists aren't always one step ahead on everything. One detail overlooked, especially if it has to do with something right at the optometry foundation, and just about anything is suspect to potential flaws. It seems that Helmholtz's Theory was treated the way a cold case would be in a criminal investigation, closed from further investigation due to "limited manpower" and resources and interest. Then no one but Bates checked into it. It's amazing how some people are unable to think outside the limits they have imposed on themselves.." Citation: http://www.iblindness.org/forum/index.php/topic,389.0.html

That is why things like improving vision are easily dismissed out-of-hand by many people- including doctors. But it does make sense from a true scientific perspective. Ex. the brain flips the retina's image (which is upside down) the right way down shortly after we are born. We also have optical illusions, that are attributed to the mind. For eye doctors to address the eye as a physical-only organism is based on many misconceptions... you need to read more if you wish to understand how this has happened to society. Dismissing this possibility out-of-hand would be based on assumptions. A person needs to read closely both sides and understand what's going on before making a judgment.

Many people don't understand that there are different ways of seeing things, and that certain things make sense only if you take for granted certain underlying premises, which people don't always see alternatives to.

Anyway, I suggest you check out the sites I provided. Especially the first three. There are a lot of misconceptions about eye exercises out there, and what other people may offer you may give temporary results but not permanent results. What part of your body do you move more than any other? Your eyes. Why would you need to exercise them any more? They're fatigued and causing strain in the mind... this is opposite of what many 'eye exercises' products out there say, and what I'm showing you has a history to it and is based on the discovery of a very brilliant, well-respected scientist that got ostracized as soon as he made a nearly 180 degree turn after 25 years as a leading optometrist. He discovered there was a very bad, inconclusive mistake at the foundation of optometry understanding of how the eye works. Don't assume that modern advancements have addressed the real problem, there are many unexplainable (or explained away) ideas about what causes diseases of the eye."

Presbyopia is a misunderstood disease of the eye. There are many old people who are able to see well into old age in other countries, and this is where the "Presbyopia starts at around 40 years old" is one of our culture's most ridiculous myths about how the eye works, because there's something not right here.

Bates found out what was not correct, and he found a way to naturally reverse deteriorating vision in people regardless of age. I suggest you check this out first before considering LASIK, because once LASIK is done, there's very little you to address the strain that causes vision deterioration without also affecting your vision."

About floaters, here is what I posted elsewhere:

"I have some floaters. I've had them since I was born, but they haven't been a problem for me. However, some floaters do appear later on during the twenties or thirties, and it's possible (but not necessarily true) that floaters can be attributed to a disease in the eye.

I asked my ophthalmologist about three years ago if I could remove them, and he said no because then some of the vitreous fluid can leak out if they have to do surgery to open the eyeball to take the floaters out, and that may cause even more floaters to appear. Unfortunately, you are stuck with the floaters, unless they go away on their own.

If you just now noticed the floater, what you need to do is go to an ophthalmologist (different than an optometrist!) and have it checked out asap. To read more about floaters, you can look at:
http://eugeneeyecare.com/conditions/Vitreous_Detachment_and_Floaters.html
http://www.mdsupport.org/library/floaters.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater "

I don't suggest LASIK under any circumstance - it won't remedy floaters, and you'll still have the "cause" even though the "symptom" (visual acuity in most people's case) has been removed.

Also, ask yourself: How does the eyeball change shape, huh? Where are the studies on this?? Isn't it possible it could be caused by the 4 recti and 2 oblique extrinsic eyeball muscles, which is based on how relaxed those muscles are, and then directly affects the lens due to eyeball shape being changed by the extrinsic muscles squeezing the eyeball out of proportion like a belt would? This is what Bates discovered. So it does make sense to me, because thoughts and emotion can affect us by tensing the muscles (negative impulses of thought to the muscles tense them, while positive thoughts relax them). Is it possible that the muscles themselves could cause all the different diseases and refraction errors in the eye? This would give new meaning to everything. This is one way to think about it.

It says at http://www.us.cibavision.com/for_your_eyes/vision_library.shtml that "exactly why eyeball shape varies is not known, but the tendency for farsightedness is inherited." Inherited? Yet they cannot tell you how the eyeball changes shape. This needs to be considered.

I know nothing about EDTA, so I'm sorry I cannot help you there.

2007-02-10 08:33:51 · answer #1 · answered by one who enjoys learning 5 · 0 0

Surgery is always a gamble. I had 2 floaters in one eye which seemed to heal over time. I was told by one of the top medical institutions in the country that there was no cure.

Make sure that this is not related to some other condition like diabetes or hypertension. (Your diagnosis was 9 years ago.) In doing searches for you on the effectiveness of EDTA in studies, I found mixed results.

Discuss the pros and cons of the surgery and the EDTA with a good doctor whose creditionals you've checked, and get a second opinion.

2007-02-07 09:40:31 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can improve your eyesight by simply learning, naturally and practicing the correct way to see for a few small minutes a day.
You can check this method based on a scientific researches : ( http://getyourvisionbacknow.keysolve.net )

If glasses are worn continuously over time the poor vision will generally become worse. Essentially what glasses do is lock the eyes into their refractive state and in order to see through your lenses you have to maintain the poor vision that the lenses are designed to correct.
"Restore my vision” program you'll be taken by the hand, it shows you how to improve your vision naturally, permanent and complete solution.
Even the American Optometric Association has been forced to admit these things! I'm sure that you will not regret your decision.

2014-10-05 10:31:10 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I have macular degeneration in my left eye. I am taking the shots. They are necessary if you want your eye to heal and the vision to be restored. They do not hurt! It just sounds bad. They deaden the eye with drops. There is very little feeling in the eyeball anyway. After the shot, there is some discomfort but only because they scrub the eye with a sterile solution. You simply place a wet wash cloth over the eye and keep it closed for about an hour or so, and it is okay. I will probably have to take the shots for the rest of my life, but that is fine. The price is not too high when I consider the value of being able to see. Sight versus blindness is not really an option to me.

2016-05-24 04:15:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You can improve your eyesight by simply learning, naturally and practicing the correct way to see for a few small minutes a day.
You can check this method based on a scientific researches :

http://improvevision.toptips.org

if glasses are worn continuously over time the poor vision will generally become worse. Essentially what glasses do is lock the eyes into their refractive state and in order to see through your lenses you have to maintain the poor vision that the lenses are designed to correct.
"Restore my vision” program you'll be taken by the hand, it shows you how to improve your vision naturally, permanent and complete solution.
Even the American Optometric Association has been forced to admit these things!
I'm sure that you will not regret your decision

2014-09-24 08:23:07 · answer #5 · answered by Marsha 2 · 0 0

Your last test was 9 years ago. You state that your vision has not worsened. It may interest you to look at the link I add:-
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio
/groups/public/documents/
PublicWebsite/public_rnib003635.hcsp
The following link has other links and addresses floaters, but the details are probably not new for you.
http://www.allaboutvision.com/
conditions/spotsfloats.htm
This link addresses floaters
http://www.eyecaresource.com/
conditions/eye-floaters/
You would be advised to obtain a consultation with an ophthalmic specialist and have your questions answered. Some people call them floaters. Eye doctors call them vitreous opacities. Laser treatment has a bad name but many good results. The main complication appears to be a raised ocular pressure.
EDTA has received favourable reports. For full details as already mentioned, you would be advised to consult your doctor or ophthalmic specialist.
Hope this helps
Matador 89

2007-02-07 10:31:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Most people believe that once they are diagnosed with some vision problem and start wearing eye glasses or contact lenses to correct them, they will have to do so for life in order to see better. Those who want a permanent solution to improve eyesight typically resort to Lasik or other corrective eye surgeries. But you you can also improve your vision without surgery and can see perfectly well without using eyeglasses or contact lenses. You can check here to know how https://tr.im/3e16f

2015-01-27 08:01:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

There is no treatment for "dry" macular degeneration.

This is from the Mayo Clinic......they can be trusted.

"There is no treatment for available to reverse dry macular degeneration........"

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/macular-degeneration/DS00284/DSECTION=7

2007-02-07 09:32:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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