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If God is all-powerful, then he can solve all the world's problems but chooses not to. Thus, he is not all-loving.

If God is all-loving, then he would solve all the world's problems if he could, but he can't. Thus, he is not all-powerful.

If God is all-powerful, then he can solve all the world's problems but chooses not to. Thus, he is not all-loving.

If God is all-loving, then he would solve all the world's problems if he could, but he can't. Thus, he is not all-powerful.

If God is all-powerful, then he can solve all the world's problems but chooses not to. Thus, he is not all-loving.

If God is all-loving, then he would solve all the world's problems if he could, but he can't. Thus, he is not all-powerful.


Christians...help me! This is too much circular reasoning for me to handle in one sitting.

2007-02-07 09:23:01 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

To Dr. Schmoo--Suffering is not all our doing, unless we make hurricanes, starvation, disease, and tornadoes. Of course, God forbid that God make anything bad [/sarcasm].

2007-02-07 12:06:20 · update #1

For Shaz--independence and protection are unrelated. It is your argument that is flawed, because dying a painful death is not even close to getting a sore toe.

2007-02-07 12:12:39 · update #2

14 answers

It's never too much circular reasoning for Christians.

2007-02-07 09:25:57 · answer #1 · answered by robtheman 6 · 1 1

Since you are not really looking for an answer, there is no way for anyone to help you. The circular reasoning spinning here is your own. The conditions you set are not what is out there in reality. God does not answer to you. As for why there is all this suffering here, that is our doing. We have free will, even if you want to deny it in the face of the obvious. We have everything here to make things work, but we choose not to. There is no justice here, and that is just what the Bible says. God has chosen to limit Himself in this world for the time being. There is a time coming when everything will be balanced out, and all the suffering will be stopped and things will be made up. How do we know this? There are promises to this effect. The very idea of perfection and balance is foreign to human experience. All the ancient mythologies and religions assumed that suffering is normal for us and will continue in the after life. The idea of perfection came from somewhere outside of human experience, human thought, and human imagination. The promise of perfection comes from the One who can make it so.
Circular reasoning like yours can only lead to dizziness and eventually upchucking. Try something else.

2007-02-07 18:03:01 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

If God is all the world's problem, then choose to solve the world and we will all be powerful.

2007-02-07 17:28:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You have a flawed argument. I do not think power enters argument.

If God loves us, like a parent loves it's child, then God would help at first (which bible says happened) and then let us fall down and make mistakes so we could learn to stand on our own, like a parent does a child, and become all that we can grow to be.

Put another way if you have a child do you for love of them carry them around forever so they don't stub toe? Do you do all their homework thus making them ignorant and unintelligent? Do you let them lie in bed so they do not exert him/herself and thus become invalids? Do you keep them in a sterile bubble for whole life so they don't get sick thus making them defenseless to any common disease?

Or do you out of love let the child go thru all the pain of life so that they can actually EXPERIENCE life and become a real person instead of a empty shell walking around?

2007-02-07 17:31:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Epicurus

2007-02-07 17:26:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You should watch the movie "Naked" by Mike Leigh. You remind me of Johnny. Godspeed.

2007-02-07 17:27:01 · answer #6 · answered by Ann Marie 2 · 0 0

Yes I've heard this before. He can pick two out of the three, but not all three.

I've never seen it put so clearly though before. Well done!

2007-02-07 17:28:39 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Paper! Ha ha! I beat you to it!

I won the game, where's my 10 bucks?

2007-02-07 17:29:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

what it means is that god created us so we must figure out this stuff from our knowledge not his.that doesn't mean he doesn't love us. he just wants to see how far we can get.

2007-02-07 17:31:00 · answer #9 · answered by bubba 2 · 0 1

Did someone drop the rock on your head?

2007-02-07 17:26:34 · answer #10 · answered by Angelz 5 · 2 1

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