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2007-02-07 01:43:11 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No, There are things that are predetermined, and those who are forordained and chosen to do certian things and the world we live in is subject to natural law which is consitant and replicatable but not all is predestined.

The idea of predestination negates the condition of choice. Choice, is interagally linked with wisdom (having knowledge and and an understanding of how to apply it) and progression.

Choice is not the same as freewill and I do not subscribe to the concept of free will as it is a condition of choice unbound by the constraintes of natural law and without responsibility for ones action. This is simply not the case as can be demostrated. Free agency (the act of choice, bound by the laws of nature which are the laws of God) enable learning and development of wisdom. and is consitant with natural law and Gods plan.

This state of being is a proving period to enable us to progress on the continuem of wisdom leading toward enlightenment or perfection.

As a part of this proving, agency and opposition are necessary. We exsisted prior to coming to this sphere. We were, at that time, in the presence of God but were not like him in that we lacked both his level of wisdom and knowledge and a physical body. We agreed to his plan to enable us to become more like him. That plan included receiving a body, proving ourselves in this state of physical morality, gaining wisdom and covenanting with God to do his will as we gain the knowlege and wisdom to do it.

Many are called (forordained) but few are chosen (actually progress at the rate necessary to fullfill that which they were forodained to do). We have choice and puropse and a loving Father that stands at the ready to assist as we progress toward enlightenment asd gain the wisdom necessary to accept and apply those things he has prepared for us.

2007-02-07 02:31:17 · answer #1 · answered by MtnManInMT 4 · 0 0

Short answer, no, mainstream Christianity does not believe that all things are predestined.

Many people think that Calvinism is a "double predestination" of God sending people both to heaven and to hell, which would make God the author of sin, and it does not stand to reason, and it is not Calvinism. Free will as a theological concept that has to do with the ability to look to God for salvation. Arminianism believes that man has the capability to choose God. Calvinism does not, given man's sinful state. However, the two systems do agree that free will exists, with Calvinism looking at a "natural state" of sin where free will is nothing to be desired since it only leads to one ultimate destination of hell, save for God's intervention.

2007-02-07 11:12:21 · answer #2 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0 0

No. Fate & Predestination imply a supernatural direction.

However, things are predetermined. The universe is subject to the Church-Turing Thesis which means that everything in the universe can be computed. Since the computations are at most stochaistic (which still can be handled by a Turing-Machine) and at the most absolute, entirely deterministic, everything was predetermined at the instant of the formation of the universe.

2007-02-07 09:47:50 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Curious question. I have a friend who is a "Primitive Baptist," who believes in predestination. The concept was developed by John Calvin who believed in the five priciples of TULIP. There is a common misconception that in Calvinism they deny the free-will of man, this is not true. They do believe that doing good work can not earn you a spot in heaven. In other words man can not seek after the good that god can give him, this is determined by the holy spirit.

2007-02-07 09:56:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If you go by the bible YES THEY ARE!!

Romans 9:21 - 23
Ephesians 1:4 - 5
Revelation 13:8
Revelation 17:8

Not one place that says you have freewill!
In fact the word freewill is NOT even in the New testament!

2007-02-07 09:49:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Depends on if there are truly random processes in nature. If so, then no. If not, then yes because the current state of the universe will always give the same subsequent state. Of course, we don't have free will in either case.

2007-02-07 09:50:20 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If they are then there is no reason for religion, churches, Bible readings, courts, jails, police, judges, etc. We are all what we are supposed to be and there is nothing anyone can do about it. And if there is a God we are ALL saved for we have no say in nothing. We are just little Robots running our programs!

2007-02-07 10:44:56 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If we are, then our lives are almost robotic. What would be the point of Christian or Islamic witnessing if everyone is destined to predetermined fate? No, our greatest gift is free will.

2007-02-07 09:47:27 · answer #8 · answered by Sick Puppy 7 · 2 0

I hope not. And I highly doubt it.
Would you like it if your life was planned out for you and there's no way you can change it?

2007-02-07 10:01:42 · answer #9 · answered by Abby C 5 · 1 0

Depends on the level you look at it.

So yes and no at the same time, its a duality.

2007-02-07 09:46:37 · answer #10 · answered by rostov 5 · 1 1

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