what are some good speech points for discrimination against women in the military?

Question

women have been being discriminated for 100's of years and now through my studies women are getting discriminated in the military there was a law set in 1945 that prohibited women having any doing of being in the military through time many of these laws have been reversed but there is one main law that deeply effects women they are to have no direct particapation in combat women and men in the military were tested and with the right training women can lift the same wait and can amount grealty to any standards does anyone here have anymore infomation that i have not discovered

with the two answers so far i have noticed that i had forgot somthing the us army research institute of evriomental medacine at natick,MA led by senior analyst Everett Harman stated "you dont need testoterone to get strong" Harma also concluded with regular joggin weight training and other exercise 75% of the 41 women studied were able to prepare themselves to sucessfully performduties traditonally perfomed by males in the military this studie proves that women are as strong willed and minded as any male they have strengh it seems like males dont want women in the military because they might prove they are stronger it s has been proven that femal have better nagotiation skills if women were more respected and given there basic right many of the killing going on would become a lower percent!

Answer 1

The army is looking into lifting the restrictions it has on Females in Combat duty positions, especially now since they are low on numbers with this war. To bring their numbers up they are looking at females being our next generation of Combat controllers, etc.
When I went through bootcamp we had several females who could do more push-ups, sit-ups and run faster than the males, it depends on the individual person.
The Phisical Training standards are just that: standards bsed on the middle ground of so many ppeople who went through the test and they calculated the middle ground what most could do.
If you look closely at the Military you will see that most branches are "rethinking/revising" their PT Numbers.
Especially for the women, my height is 5'8" my ideal weight is 154lbs, my maximum allowable weight (MAW) is 162lbs. I actually weigh 178lbs. Its not fat I just have alot of muscles and muscles weigh more than fat but i still get points taken for being "overweight".
If i were 154, i could not do half the things my job requires me to do since i would not have the muscle strengh. Plus i would be on the verge of anorexia

Sorry didnt mean to make this a bit personal but its a sore point in my eyes.

Answer 2

Bert T has a good point . The standards are not the same for females as they are for males. I worked on communication gear in the Corps and each of the teletypes weighed over 100 pounds .Most of the females I served with either couldn't lift them or were on light duty status because of pregnancy or other female specific medical condition. Also when it came time to go in the field , my platoon was commonly 30 to 40 % understrength because a lot of females would suddenly be on " light duty". For a male to be on light duty on a regualr basis , he could be charged with malingering but a female could get away with it .
If females were held to the same standards as males and could pass , there wouldn't be a problem. But with all the politics involved , that isn't the case.
Also the Canadians have just one set of qualifications for being in the infantry and to the best of my knowlege only woman has ever qualified to be assigned to a infantry unit in the Canadian Army.

Answer 3

Oh the discrimination goes much deeper than that.

Females in the Army have lower physical standards, meaning they dont have to do as many Push Ups, Sit Ups or have to run the two mile course as well or as fast as males of the same age do.

Its called "Gender-Norming", where they decide 20 pushups in 2 minutes is just as good as 50 a male must do in the same timeframe.

A female in the Army has an automatic Honorable Discharge whenever she wants just by getting pregnant, but the father has no such out.

A female in the Army cannot be charged with Sexual Harrassment in the Service, only males can.

The Israelis tried females in combat, with mixed results. The US just isnt ready to see its young women blown apart on the battlefield.

Answer 4

As a woman who spent 8 years in the Military, I really don't believe in the discrimination. Yes, we can't be in the infantry, and yes we cannot be rangers (which was my original aspiration) - but after much working with these elite units, I have learned why. There are men out there that don't want women in the military for many reasons - some believe that they should be home with the kids.

The reasons for women to not be in the Rangers/infantry are primarily hygienic. So you are out in the woods (Ft Polk) for an excess of 30 days. In that time, unless you have gotten the depo shot you are going to get your period. Now, how do you handle this in the feild? Are you going to bury your used hygiene products? Put them in a bag and bring them with you? If you bury it and some animal smells it and digs it up - you have left a trail for the enemy to follow. If the enemy is using tracking dogs etc....they can smell a woman "in heat". That is the first reason.

2nd Reason being that too many men have been raised to treat women with more care, and naturally protect women. This is at no fault of women but is for everyones safety. It is natural to assume that a man would do more stupid things to help/save a woman then they would another man - therefore in lieu of preventing studipity women are not allowed to be in situations like this.

The fact of the matter is that the whole "no women in direct combat" thing while is true, it not realistic. Many women have been injured and killed in the Iraq war. If you wanted to say that women were not allowed in direct combat, then there should be no females in the country of Iraq at all. Travelling in a Hum-V while an IED (improvised Elpolsive Device) is detonated next to you, and you stopping, taking cover and returning fire is direct combat - so in reality, they are in direct combat. They just cannot be in the infantry.
Now remember that females only take up about 20 % of the military.

As far as physical standards are concerned. It is true that females do not have to do as many push-ups as a man, and that they have more time to run the 2 miles (ARMY) than a male, BUT - they are required to do the same amount of sit ups as a male.
Reasoning is as follows:
Women hold all their strength in the mid section and lower body (they are designed this way for child baring purposes)
Because of this they are not expect to be able to do as many upper body (push up) repititions as a male. Women are also not designed to run (because of their hips).
HOWEVER
A woman is desgined to be able to complete the mid/lower body exercise better than a man (sit-ups).
It is my opinion that instead of being held to the same standard as the men on the sit ups - that females should be held to a higher standard on the sit-ups - since we are designed to be able to do these much easier than the men.

All in all, I am sure that there is a lot of individual soldier discrimination in the military - but over all, I firmly believe that it is very fair, and if you have to work a little bit harder to prove that you are an equal - well that is going to do nothing but make you a better person, and all the soldier that you can be.

Hope that my opinions help - and I apologize for any mis-spellings