Check it out, tell me what you think:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm
2007-02-06
10:57:29
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Frog - read the link, then comment - that's kinda the point :o)
2007-02-06
11:11:08 ·
update #1
disgracedfish - Ball is now 'friend' of mine. I merely throw his article into the pot for people to chew on.
2007-02-06
20:56:42 ·
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Oops! Typo - that's "no friend of mine".
2007-02-06
20:58:47 ·
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Global warming and global cooling (ice age) both exist. The Earth goes through cycles and tries to balance itself out. With the emissions of hydro carbons into the atmosphere, we have accelerated the Earth's warming by depleting the ozone which in turn allows more of the sun's energy to enter the Earth.
Under normal conditions we would go through a warming period when the Earth's rotation around the sun becomes a little more elliptical and the Earth travels closer to the sun. After time the Earth rotation becomes more circular and balances the temperature. We absolutely have to make a radical change in the way we live...we need to conserve more energy and utilize fewer fossil fuels.
Pete...
I read the article your reference. I agree with the author that folks that disagree with mainstream thinking are shunned and discredited. However, we can't deny that we are definitely in an accelerated warming phase. The glaciers in Greenland are melting at a phenomenal pace, the ice levels in Antarctica are quickly diminishing. Since I physically haven't done the research myself I can't definitively say that CFC's aren't causing a greenhouse effect, but I have to believe that they are. Furthermore, I have to believe that by being more conservative and less wasteful we would be benefiting the Earth a lot more than we are now.
2007-02-06 11:14:18
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answered by funwithfondu 2
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Read the article. It is unquestionable that the increase in atmospheric CO2 has increased from 280-380 ppm over the last century, and that has coincided with vastly increased expenditure of fossil fuels. That the earth goes through inter-glacial periods anyway is also true (which may account for the irregular weather patterns we are experiencing)
Why take the risk that increased human production of CO2 might lead to an unstable and irreversible climate change? We surely have alternate energy-producing technologies in place.
If man-made global warming is wrong.. then we lose a little..but surely the better bet is we could save ourselves on this planet?
2007-02-06 11:37:47
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answered by troothskr 4
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::Edit:: Ah. I suggest that you never throw anything from Tim Ball into the pot to be chewed on ever. The man isn't even a real climate scientist.
Pete, I think you ought to do some reading up on your good friend Tim Ball (the guy who wrote that article).
"Whatever one may feel about Tim Ball's denial of climate change science, newspapers ought to report factual summaries of authors' credentials. You note that he "was the first Climatology PhD in Canada and worked as a Professor of Climatology at the University of Winnipeg for 28 years". Ball received a PhD in Geography in the UK in 1982, on a topic in historical climatology. Canada already had PhDs in climatology, and it is important to recognize them and their research. Examples include Kenneth Hare, a well-respected Professor at McGill, who received his PhD in 1950, also in the UK. Climatologist Andre Robert (PhD from McGill, 1965) conducted research that laid the groundwork in atmospheric models and climate. Timothy Oke, a leader in the study of urban climate, received his PhD from McMaster in 1967. According to Ball's website, he was not a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg for 28 years. And how could he have? He did not even have an entry-level PhD until 1983, that would allow even Assistant Professor status. During much of the 28 years cited, he was a junior Lecturer who rarely published, and then spent 8 years as a geography professor. His work does not show any evidence of research regarding climate and atmosphere and the few papers he has published concern other matters. There are great gains to be made in science from conjectures and refutations, but sometimes denial is nothing more than denial."
The above was written by: Dan Johnson, PhD
Professor of Environmental Science
Canada Research Chair in Sustainable Grassland Ecosystems
Department of Geography
University of Lethbridge
By the way, Ball is currently suing Johnson for correctly pointing out that he was lying about his qualifications.
2007-02-06 14:29:40
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answered by disgracedfish 3
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The Sun has been burning 700 million tonnes of hydrogen every second for 6.5 million years. It will go on burning for another 4.5 million years.
The point is - MILLIONS OF YEARS.
The industrial revolution from 1800 to 2007 = 200 years.
200/6,500,000 = 0.00000307 %
The fact is that the Sun is getting bigger, therefore, closer.
Now, I'm no scientist, but if you sit nearer to the fire, you get hotter. However, the Sun does not have a thermostat and has quite a range of temperature. We are experiencing and hot period. Just as there have been cold periods (Ice Ages).
The Sun affects our planet much more than mans intervention does.
"Global Warming" more like "Global Profiteering" !
2007-02-06 11:28:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Try this, put ice in a glass and then fill it with water to the rim and leave it in a room until the ice melts, the glass shouldn't overflow
so no global warming does exist but doesn't affect water levels
2007-02-07 06:33:42
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answered by tomwilli_2000 1
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We (being the world) have checked it out carefully and decided that it does exist and our actions are causing it. Let me tell you something else - there ain't half some clever people working on global warming and it isn't just a human fantasy.
2007-02-08 05:05:32
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answered by Professor 7
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international Warming is assumed to be answerable for the climate variations answerable for crop mess ups, famine, drastic variations in the climate, and the polar ice cap melting. people who disagree with concept of international Warming argue that climate replace is a organic incidence and examples might nicely be discovered by out Earth's historic past of previous cases.
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answered by Anonymous
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I skimmed throug it and it makes sense,I dont believe global warming exists(at least how they preach it) and compare it to an almost religion like thing,you have a consensus of people who promote an eden,an apocolypse,a hell,a heaven(of their own divine creation)and all they do is preach doom at you,trying to use guilt to promote what they're selling
2007-02-06 11:56:55
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answered by stygianwolfe 7
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we have seen some major changes in our climate over the past 20 years along with freak weather they are a result of global warming,caused by all of us, we are all guilty and this is only the beginning. we have been custodians of this planet for only a few thousand years and we have all managed to ruin it.
the last 100 years has seen advances in technology never seen before and im afraid to say that many of those advances have added to our planets slow death, and we add to it more every day.
i fear we have passed the point of no return and no amount of green taxes will help this dire situation, governments of the world have known about this for many years and have chosen to do little or nothing about it.
in answer to your question, yes it does exist and it will be more noticable over the next 30 years to come.
2007-02-06 11:15:54
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answered by jardon 3
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the earth goes through weather changes around every 10,000 years some thing to do with the sun and the moon and the way the earth tilts. so i'm not to sure if we have caused as many problems as made out to believe
2007-02-06 11:18:55
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answered by angie 5
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