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If it can, prove it!

2007-02-06 09:21:42 · 24 answers · asked by ? 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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No.. and you know why?? BECAUSE HE DOES EXIST

2007-02-06 09:24:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

Chances are you do not believe in Santa Claus, so does that mean that you can prove that he does not exist? No, it is impossible to prove that something does not exist when it does not exist. Especially when it comes to Christians, because you could search all of the Universe and bring them along and they would state that God wiggled his nose and farted and magically disappeared because he did not want to be found.
But all Christians deep down know that their proof of existence of God is the same as the proof of the existence of Santa, or the FSM, or the Pink Unicorn.

2007-02-06 17:31:14 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

For knowledge to exist, three facts must be accepted as true:

- Math & Logic are valid
- Direct observations or aided observations supported by Math & Logic are valid
- Supernatural existence, if real, does not involve itself in the natural realm (otherwise, any 'fact' could be changed by the interference -- say by the God of Gravity changing his mind on how strong it will be tomorrow).

Free will can thus be shown to be false:

- The mind is a consequence of the physical nature of the brain (Nonsupernatural causation axiom).
- Quantum physics contains a truly random component (Mathematical axiom)
- All observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical axiom).
- All principles causal to observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical Axiom).
- All mathematical expressions can be evaluated (Mathematical Axiom).
- An evaluation need not be deterministic, it can be stochaistic, that is, describing 'probabilities'. (Statistical mathematics).
- Since quantum physics can affect the human brain, and thus mind, the human state is mathematically stochaistic (consequential)
- If the quantum randomness is rescoped to be viewed as an input, the human brain ceases to be stoichasitic and is deterministic. (statement of rescope)
- A deterministically computable system is incapable of escaping its previous states, and produces outputs based on a computable result of the previous state and current inputs.(Turing-Church Thesis)
- Determinism counters free will. (By definition)
- Free will is not possible. (consequential)
- If a deity exists, free will is a natural consequence. (axiomic, potentially debatable. However, a deity that creates intelligence without free will cannot hold its creation responsible)
- Free will does not exist, therefore, deity does not exist. (modus tollens).

The idea of a deity existing is disproven logically.

[ I really should cut out all the long winded explaination of the falsehood of free will. I'll have to update this text before I post it again. Long story short -- Free will is impossible because of the Church-Turing Thesis. ]

2007-02-06 17:26:50 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No. Neither god's existence nor god's non-existence can be proven.

They are both matters of faith. Agnosticism is the only logical belief.

On the other hand, based on Occam's razor, a universe without god is a simpler explanation than a universe with god and, therefore, is the easier belief to justify.

For this reason, if you wish to believe in god, you have the burden of proof.

2007-02-06 17:23:43 · answer #4 · answered by Dave P 7 · 4 0

That depends on the definition of "God". Some say God is love, and since love exists then that particualar God exists. Some say God is energy, which definitely exists. But the God of the Bible may or may not exist. I don't think it does, but can I prove it? Why should I have to? Do I have to prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist?

2007-02-06 17:26:00 · answer #5 · answered by wleef2002 6 · 0 1

It cannot be proved if God does, or does not exist. Short of "God himself" coming to earth and showing humans that he does exist, really, it's up to us to decide for our selves if we believe or not, and what it is we do or do not believe in. Since it cannot be proved, or disproved(?) our own happiness in life and love, family, is more important. Whether we believe or not, we are who we are. So much hate, cruelty and just negativity has been brought on by disputes about religion and beliefs, when really, who cares??? It does not effect me in any way what your beliefs are. If it works for you, and you don't shove your beliefs down my throat, than good for you, more power to ya!!

2007-02-06 17:54:16 · answer #6 · answered by 77chick 2 · 0 0

Can it be proven that invisible flying unicorns do not exist?
-it is up to people to attempt to prove that God DOES exist, not the other way around. The burden of proof lies on the one making the claim.

2007-02-06 17:23:30 · answer #7 · answered by ? 6 · 3 2

Absolutely.

1) Systematically explore the entire material universe cubic inch by cubic inch.

Report results.

2) Systematically explore Nirvana cubic inch by cubic inch.

Report results.

3) Systematically explore Valhalla cubic inch by cubic inch.

Report results.

4) Systematically explore the Happy Hunting Grounds cubic inch by cubic inch.

Report results.

You might need a team.

2007-02-06 17:27:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I love how the atheists sit back on this one and say, "No I don't have to!!" You have to prove he exists and play by the rules we have decided are correct we won't believe. They cannot disprove, so they want to insist we play ball on their turf or reject our ideas. It's too bad they cannot think outside of the box on this one.

2007-02-06 17:37:48 · answer #9 · answered by Searcher 7 · 0 0

Nothing can be proven, we can all be fooled. However, since Genesis doesn't describe the origins of the world and it's inhabitants the way science has discovered them to be, it's about as close a proof as you could ask for that the Bible is fiction.

2007-02-06 17:24:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Nope

2007-02-06 17:23:43 · answer #11 · answered by BamaJJP 3 · 3 0

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