Where is the Scriputral Evidence for the Trinity?

Question

As I recall, the doctrine of the Trinity was established at the First Council of Nacaea in 325 AD. However, I have yet to find any scriptures in the Bible reffering to the fact that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one in person (specifically), although I read the King James Version of the Bible. What is that reference?

As I recall, the doctrine of the Trinity was established at the First Council of Nacaea in 325 AD. However, I have yet to find any scriptures in the Bible reffering to the fact that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one in person (specifically). I read the King James Version of the Bible. What is that reference?

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While I am aware that the scriptures do refer to the fact that the Father, Son, and Holy ghost are one, this could be interpreted into a number of things (one in will, purpose, etc). But, where does it say they are one in person, or they have the same entity?

Answer 1

There is no evidence and never will be. Any false evidence that trinity doctine believers try to use was all added to the original Greek manuscripts by the King James translators. They changed verses to try to make people believe that God was not one true God, but a triad of Gods, making God a mystery. Who do they pray to? The holy spirit or Jesus or God? Trinitarians should consider Scriptures in their own Bible that prove that Jesus and God are two separate spirit persons and not co-equal.
1 Peter 1:3--"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ-" (Yes, Jesus has a God and Father, just as we do)
2 John 1:3--"Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father-"
(This verse sets Jesus and God apart and makes it clear that Jesus is the Father's Son.)
Jesus did not pray to himself, resurrect himself from the grave, or sit at his own right hand.

Answer 2

The trinity is not a Bible teaching. Instead, it is based on the man-made Athanasian Creed that says that the Father, Son and holy spirit are equal in substance, eternity, and power. Try as you will, you will never find that concept in the Bible.

Trinitarians try to use the Bible to support their beliefs. For instance, they will use John 10:30, where Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." In this verse, do you see anything that says the Father, Son and holy spirit are equal in anything? How could it when this verse is only talking about 2 people.

How about John 8:58? There, Jesus said in part: "Before Abraham was, I Am." Again, do you see anything that says God is made up of 3 co-equal persons? No.

How about John 1:1? In part, it says: "...the Word was God" (in some Bibles). Do you see 3 co-eternal persons here? No.

How about Matt. 28:19, where the Father, Son, and holy spirit are all mentioned in the same verse? Can you see ANYTHING here that even remotely suggests that the 3 are co-eternal, co-equal, and almighty, just because they appear in the same verse? No. That's reading something into that verse that simply is not there.

The Bible does not teach equality among the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit. Instead, it says that Jehovah is the Almighty. (Ps. 83:18) Jesus called his Father the ONLY true God. (John 17:3) Jesus is the Son of God. (John 10:36) Jesus and his Father are not equals. At John 14:28, Jesus said: "The Father is greater than I am." The holy spirit is God's active force. (Gen. 1:1)

There is no scriptural evidence of the trinity because such a teaching is not a part of the Bible.

Answer 3

I remember seeing an obscure passage which actually mentions something along the lines of "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in one", but I can't find it. I do remember, though, it occurs as a footnote in the Revised Standard Version which mentions that it does not occur in the oldest copies of it. It's one of the epistles in the New Testament (possibly 1 John), but it was probably put in later, likely to support the idea of a trinity, which is, your correct, a much later in coming than the Bible.

Edit, it's 1 John 5:7: "There are three that testify in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one." But once again, most authorities (i.e., manuscripts of 1 John) do not include it.

Answer 4

Well, the Great Commission comes to mind, baptize them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. But recall that the word 'person' comes from the Greek, Persona, meaning a mask, the kind that actors used to wear during theatre. That's how one God can have three personalities. Also, the Bible DOES refer to the Father, Son, and Spirit separately and individually as God. You don't need the word 'trinity' to demonstrate the concept.

Answer 5

Believing in a secret would not propose believing in something this is unreasonable or illogical yet particularly in something you don't be able to ever be attentive to thoroughly—which contain God. It isn’t something you may’t be attentive to something approximately; it relatively is something you may’t be attentive to each little thing approximately. there is one being, that's God, yet there are there persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. it relatively is not any longer illogical. If one have been to assert that there is one God and 3 Gods, or one man or woman and 3 persons—which would be illogical. yet one Being and 3 persons isn't a contradiction. And for those making comments on paganism............... The Egyptians had a Trinity. They worshiped Osiris, Isis, and Horus hundreds of years in the previous the daddy, Son, and Holy Ghost have been extensive-unfold isn't real. The Egyptians had an Ennead—a pantheon of 9 considerable gods and goddesses. Osiris, Isis, and Horus have been in basic terms 3 divinities in the pantheon who have been heavily proper via marriage and blood and who figured in the comparable delusion cycle. they did no longer characterize the three persons of a single divine being, the Christian concept of a Trinity. regardless of if there's a pagan parallel, that would not propose that there is a causal courting in touch. 2 communities might strengthen comparable ideals and practices independently of one yet another. the concept comparable varieties are continually the end results of diffusion from a straightforward source has long been rejected via archaeology and anthropology ........... people are corresponding to a minimum of one yet another and stay in comparable environments, maximum well known them to have comparable cultural artifacts and perspectives.

Answer 6

I'm pretty sure that the idea of the trinity is just another ill founded doctrine of christianity that is closer to paganism than it is gnosticims

the Jewish Kabalists had a holy family, but it was the 'perfect' father/mother, son/daughter version not 3

all about union not about sexism and ghosts

Answer 7

The Father Son And Holy Ghost: Their is none; one must believe this on faith alone. Other wise there would be no reason for faith: faith you trust it to be TRUE. If it is proven you know it is true so one would not need faith to believe it. There would be no one to doubt, no need to argue the point. No need for faith.
I also love these same people that claim the TRINITY and yet do not believe in ghost. This is one double standard if I ever saw one!

Answer 8

Yeah, its either lost, burned, destroyed, or buried somewhere...it actually arose as an issue at Nicea but was not accepted until another conference a couple of hundred years later (think of how much better this all could have turned out if they had faxes and computers).

I am not putting it down, I do understand it and I do believe it is likely true...but the way it came about I realize leaves doubts for the pros and the cons and the inbetweens. I have no problem respecting differences with other Christians regarding it and I fully understand what non-Christians are confused about it and its origins. CC

Answer 9

You may have better luck with your studies using a different version. King James version is wordy and the old english used makes it hard to understand. Kind of like reading Shakspeare.

go to www.bible.com. Use the new international version or the amplified version. they are easier to understand.

Go here for a good explanation: http://www.contenderministries.org/biblestudy/trinity.php

Answer 10

These verses show they are all connected

Luke 1:35
The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called [ Or So the child to be born will be called holy,] the Son of God.


All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit [Matthew 28:19].

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all [2 Corinthians 13:14].

To God’s elect. . .who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood [1 Peter 1:1-2].

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."