Do you realize that the odds of "life existing on Earth" without miracles occuring is an impossibility?

Question

"Thus, less than 1 chance in 10282(million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion) exists that even one such life-support body would occur anywhere in the universe without invoking divine miracles."

http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/design_evidences/200404_probabilities_for_life_on_earth.shtml

Check it out!!

Answer 1

love the math! Why not say one chance in a ka-jillion and be done with it.

Answer 2

As a Mathematician I realize there is no possible way you can make such a calculation since you have no idea of the processes involved.. Show your derivation or admit you lied.

The bigger question is why do you lie so much?

Ok I went to your website and it is a complete load of nonsense. For instance they say the odds of neptune being within the required mass for life to exist on earth is one out of ten. Do You Really believe that? No one could be quite that gullible.

I do think the odds of life forming on earthlike planets may well be small, but if there are an infinite number of earthlike planets then not only will it happen, but it will happen an infinite number of times.

Personally I believe reality is infinite and ergodic (varied ). That would mean the odds of anything which is possible are 1 out of 1. We just don't see much of reality because it is indeed so vast.

Answer 3

Do you realize that the chance of your statistics being accurate are probably even less? Do you realize that even if what that page full of BS were even remotely true, it could only calculate the odds of life developing EACTLY as is it did on Earth. What is to say that life EVERYWHERE must meet all of these ctriteria? Also, please explain how the mass of Neptune affects the chances of life existing on Earth or the chances in places where there is no Neptune. The page you quoted is ludicrous.

Answer 4

Apparently you're unaware that scientists have absolutely proven that 87.493201602% of all statistics are made up.

You also seem to be unaware that a sentence of the form "the odds of X is an impossibility" is ungrammatical, and that there are two "r"s in "occurring". Normally I wouldn't mention such things, but in light of the scientific precision of your question, I thought them worth pointing out. They should help you to correct your question - just fix those two errors, and replace what you wrote with "this site is full of utter nonsense made up by people who don't know what they're talking about", and you'll be good to go.

Answer 5

The odds of someone asking exactly that question, at exactly this particular time, on this particular platform, are even greater. So obviously it must be another miracle. But wait a minute ... the odds of me writing this particular answer are even greater!! Glory be to the Lord! I just performed a miracle!!!

I'm pointing out the silly fallacy in this type of "hyper-statistical" thinking. It's a meaningless approach. And your "source" probably knows it.

Answer 6

Do you realize that your chances of winning the lottery are statistically equal whether you buy a ticket or not? Yet people win the lottery every day.

I calculated it out, and the chance that God exists is one in ten billion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion.

So I guess if you divide one by the other, then a slow, gradual process of evolution is more likely.

Answer 7

Wrong. Amino acids can be created spontaneously in a laboratory- organic materials are formed by amino acids. If water, chemicals like hydrogen and methane and electricity (from lightning) exist within any given environment which they did on ancient earth then given a timescale of tens of millions of years the odds against life occuring are not great.

Answer 8

"unschooled" is an appropriate moniker. Creationists are fond of saying that evolution is random and that such randomness cannot give rise to order. They are confused. Mutations are random but natural selection is the antithesis of randomness. Natural selection decides who dies and who lives. The spontaneous appearance of life is a long shot but given 10 billion years and hundreds of billions of planets, even the statistically unlikely becomes likely.

Answer 9

That's bunk.
Of the many, many suppositions any such "answer" would require, one would be the (at least) relative size of all possible universes. Clearly, not possible.
On the other hand, if the universe(s) are infinite, then the probability of any possible event happening quickly moves toward certainty, and if the universe is "infinite", then everything possible is necessary.

Answer 10

Nothing is IMPOSSIBLE. Just HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely to ever occur.

BTW: The odds of life existing on ANY planet is quite improbable, but not impossible. After all, it's happened at least once: here on Earth. The "miracles" being scientific miracles, but really... it's all due to probability so there's not much of any miracles involved.

Answer 11

ok given infinate time, 1 in 10282(million trillion....trillion) will come up eventually. as infinite is much much larger then that. *shrug* infact that is a small number compared to infinite.